Better resume Mike Tyson or Wladimir Klitschko?
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Prime comes in different ages. Mike Tyson's prime came before he was 25 for example.
No one in their right mind would argue Tyson was in his prime when he was 33 years old or anywhere near it.
Klitschko may have been in his physical prime when he fought Sanders and Brewster, but I don't think any person with a brain would say that Klitschko was as good as the one from 2008-2012.Comment
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Undefeated means nothing when the toughest guy you fought is Botha and you got boxed cicles around by him, a tough journeyman essentially.I don't know about you but something about:
1. Going undefeated for 5 years, only having lost to Evander Holyfield (former unidisputed and lineal heavyweight champion) in more then a decade.
2. Being a former undisputed and lineal heavyweight champion himself.
3. Being seen as one of the few legitimate threats to Lennox (7-4 odds)
4. Being the fight the world wanted to see - turned out to be only the most luceratuve fight in heavyweight history.
5. Lewis publically stating he couldn't retire without fighting Tyson.
Kinda does tell you he got himself into a position to fight Lewis right?
Yes he was and great for him, he was a great fighter, it's like you think I'm not a Tyson fan
4. this is the key point.
Tyson could have had a Lewis fight at any stage during his career. At any stage. He didn't have to "fight himself into a position". that's pure BS.
Tyson didn't want the fight. He could have had it in '96 and '97, but chose the 'easier' fight against Holyfield. The perceived easier choice.
Holyfield says this himself. It's just hilarious to hear newbie boxing fans rewrite history to suit their agenda.
I'm a much much bigger Tyson fan than klitschko fan. Ask anyone hear, I probably more than anyone criticized Klitschko all the way through his career on this forum.
But I can't just pretend like Tyson fought and beat top heavyweights when he didn't, and wasn't done by the mid 90s when he was.
And I think Klitschko of 2010 would beat mid 90s Tyson because at that time he just wasn't the same.Comment
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Ah so cute. Look a them
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you have problems understanding ranges.Prime comes in different ages. Mike Tyson's prime came before he was 25 for example.
No one in their right mind would argue Tyson was in his prime when he was 33 years old or anywhere near it.
Klitschko may have been in his physical prime when he fought Sanders and Brewster, but I don't think any person with a brain would say that Klitschko was as good as the one from 2008-2012.
now you can rewrite your post.Comment
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No I understand perfectly fine.
And at which point in that range was Tyson in his prime?
I'll wait for that, then maybe you should rethink whether you know boxing like you think you do.
Here's a hint: you don't.Comment
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This has absolutely nothing to do with anything you complete and utter moron. The topic of discussion was weather Mike was able to compete in the era of Lewis, i'm not denying that he chose and easier choice in Holyfield.Undefeated means nothing when the toughest guy you fought is Botha and you got boxed cicles around by him, a tough journeyman essentially.
Yes he was and great for him, he was a great fighter, it's like you think I'm not a Tyson fan
4. this is the key point.
Tyson could have had a Lewis fight at any stage during his career. At any stage. He didn't have to "fight himself into a position". that's pure BS.
Tyson didn't want the fight. He could have had it in '96 and '97, but chose the 'easier' fight against Holyfield. The perceived easier choice.
Holyfield says this himself. It's just hilarious to hear newbie boxing fans rewrite history to suit their agenda.
I'm a much much bigger Tyson fan than klitschko fan. Ask anyone hear, I probably more than anyone criticized Klitschko all the way through his career on this forum.
But I can't just pretend like Tyson fought and beat top heavyweights when he didn't, and wasn't done by the mid 90s when he was.
Botha was one of the few fighters that was around when Tyson was trying to build himself up, maybe if W. Klitschko wasn't busy trying out BJJ against Sanders, he could have been in a position to fight Tyson.
I'm convinced you've gone insane. What the f*%k does this have to do with what're discussing here? We've already had this debate in another thread. This thread was about who's resume was better.
Seriously LacedUp, put the computer down and walk away.Comment
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Resorting to insults to make your point = blocked.This has absolutely nothing to do with anything you complete and utter moron. The topic of discussion was weather Mike was able to compete in the era of Lewis, i'm not denying that he chose and easier choice in Holyfield.
Botha was one of the few fighters that was around when Tyson was trying to build himself up, maybe if W. Klitschko wasn't busy trying out BJJ against Sanders, he could have been in a position to fight Tyson.
I'm convinced you've gone insane. What the f*%k does this have to do with what're discussing here? We've already had this debate in another thread. This thread was about who's resume was better.
Seriously LacedUp, put the computer down and walk away.
The last point is the entire reason we're discussing this in the first place
You literally said "Who did Wlad beat that makes you think he could beat Tyson?"
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I'm sure Wlad's opponents would be quaking in their boots if they were to meet the mighty Bruce Seldon, or Michael Spinks or Frank Bruno.
All heavyweight greats.Comment
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