Did GGG beat better MIDDLEWEIGHTS than B-Hop.

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  • Shadoww702
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    #51
    Originally posted by TonyGe
    Shadow you are full of it. You know very well you scored the first fight 7-5 for Golovkin. I had it 8-4. I've told you that numerous times. Why you respond with this kind nonsense is anybody guess. Yes, Golovkin has an excellent chance to beat Hopkins.
    Then why do you scream ROBBERY then all the f'n time???

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    • Real King Kong
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      #52
      Originally posted by Boxing_1013
      Yeah BHop had some bizarre performances in his career imo...I struggle with how to rate him sometimes...for such a smart fighter, those 2 fights are perplexing to me, even now
      I truly believe he let the “boxing genius” stuff go to his head. Prior to that tournament he was seen as a bit of a grinder who used those old school roughhouse tactics. He got such high praise for how he broke down Trinidad, he morphed into this cerebral assassin type.

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      • NORMNEALON
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        #53
        I personally think its damn close. Quite even to be fair. Hopkins wins over "non middleweights " who were ATGs I think give Hopkins a slight edge but you take that away and it's very close. I wouldnt argue anyone picking either guy with the context of this thread . Hopkins became an ATG after MW imho .

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        • TonyGe
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          #54
          Originally posted by Shadoww702
          Then why do you scream ROBBERY then all the f'n time???
          Because I think it was a f'n robbery. I thought Kenny Norton got robbed when he fought Ali and if someone asked what I thought about it I'd them the same damned thing I'm telling you now about the Canelo fight. Frankly for a guy who is not ****** why do make **** up that you know isn't true.
          Last edited by TonyGe; 04-24-2020, 11:22 PM.

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          • Boxing_1013
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            #55
            Originally posted by Real King Kong
            I truly believe he let the “boxing genius” stuff go to his head. Prior to that tournament he was seen as a bit of a grinder who used those old school roughhouse tactics. He got such high praise for how he broke down Trinidad, he morphed into this cerebral assassin type.
            Man that is probably exactly it...great insight...glad some people on here have some good thoughts...though you are a great poster on here so not surprised...but I think you hit the nail on the head there.

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            • AKAcronym
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              #56
              Can you imagine some of these posters and what they would've said if Golovkin rematched guys he already beat, in some case more than once? They would've lost their ****, even more than they already have.

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                #57
                Originally posted by TonyGe
                Yeah I think he has an excellent chance of beating Hopkins at Middleweight. Golovkin is clearly better than anyone Hopkins beat at Middle.
                Log off^^^^^^

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                • DreamFighter
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                  #58
                  lets see.

                  GGG's top contender wins - Jacobs, Derev (one was really a loss)

                  Bhops top contender wins -several

                  GGG blown up welter is a guy with one title win

                  Bhops blown up welters are 2 HoFers.



                  of course bhops are better.

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                  • Citizen Koba
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                    Yeah BHop had some bizarre performances in his career imo...I struggle with how to rate him sometimes...for such a smart fighter, those 2 fights are perplexing to me, even now
                    Hopkins can figure most guys out, but if they're just flat out a lot quicker than you being able to anticipate what they're gonna do next doesn't always let you stop em. And also being a bit rawer and less orthodox - one of those natural talents who doesn't do stuff quite by the book - actually makes it harder for a thinking dude like Hopkins to anticipate or corral your range of options. Same story with Dawson and Calzaghe same reason I think a young Dre Dirrell would been bad for Hopkins if Dre could resist BHops getting into his psyche in the run up.
                    Last edited by Citizen Koba; 04-25-2020, 03:41 AM.

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                    • stealthradon
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                      #60
                      Hopkins lost his first fight.
                      Should have lost to Segundo Mercado.
                      Fought Robert Allen thrice.
                      Fought DLH, who was a career WW. Unlike Brook. Also Brook would utterly destroy DLH. DLH's only win at above 154, wasn't a win at all. It was a fúcking sham.

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