How good of a win was beating Mosely for Floyd?

[sugarsmosley]

manny waited for Mosley to look weak and crappy before facing him

Gets schooled by Floyd and looked bad VS Mora. Only then did manny feel confident in fighting Mosley

OK, thats debatable what manny may or may not have been thinking about the prospects of fighting mosley.. So lets say what ur saying is true.

That doesn't change the fact of what i said. Shanes fight with floyd and manny is literally seperated by a nearly an exact year on the dot. IMO to tout floyds win over mosley as incredible, and mannys as junk is biased and flat out wrong.

IMO

[daggum]

i get what hes saying, perhaps when you look at the rankings at the time baldomir and judah were up there...

i cant lie tho, mentioning baldomir is kinda laughable today

well judah was coming off a loss to a bum but floyd had no issues fighting him still. baldomr was obv one of the worst fighters ever to hold the "prestigious" lineal title cept it wasn't prestigious at all because marg was #1 the whole time but mayorga-spinks-judah-baldomir, etc...never fought him and it just got completely watered down playing hot potato

[sugarsmosley]

well he was clearly great when floyd fought him and compltely shot when pac fought him a year later. makes sense! even if you go with the well manny only fought him after he looked bad, that still doesnt change the fact that he was bad when floyd fought him, when mayorga fought him, when mora fought him, etc...

I understand the logic of floyds win over shane being significant, i really do. If you want to get even more specific and say its more meaningful then mannys win over shane, i get that too. Shane had a lopsided loss before fighting manny...

However like i pointed out above, we're talking one literal calender year seperates manny and floyds victories. to call one amazing and one trash, is suspect of being a fanboy

[daggum]

OK, thats debatable what manny may or may not have been thinking about the prospects of fighting mosley.. So lets say what ur saying is true.

That doesn't change the fact of what i said. Shanes fight with floyd and manny is literally seperated by a nearly an exact year on the dot. IMO to tout floyds win over mosley as incredible, and mannys as junk is biased and flat out wrong.

IMO

he just wants floyd to have special i took a risk fighting mosley first points while ignoring that mosley looked awful in fights before and after the floyd fight which is a pretty good indication he was done. marg walked into mosleys power and that was that but his skills had completely eroded and that was clear in the mayorga fight. this is all laughable of course because a guy like forrest never gets much credit for beating a prime mosley but floyd has such low standards he beats a faded version and thats a great win? please

[GrandpaBernard]

OK, thats debatable what manny may or may not have been thinking about the prospects of fighting mosley.. So lets say what ur saying is true.

That doesn't change the fact of what i said. Shanes fight with floyd and manny is literally seperated by a nearly an exact year on the dot. IMO to tout floyds win over mosley as incredible, and mannys as junk is biased and flat out wrong.

IMO

Floyd win over Mosley was good at the time

manny over Mosley was okay. Shane just got done struggling with Mora to a draw. A draw with Mora

manny performance against Mosley was terrible to top it all off. Mosley was barely throwing back and manny struggled to catch him

[daggum]

I understand the logic of floyds win over shane being significant, i really do. If you want to get even more specific and say its more meaningful then mannys win over shane, i get that too. Shane had a lopsided loss before fighting manny...

However like i pointed out above, we're talking one literal calender year seperates manny and floyds victories. to call one amazing and one trash, is suspect of being a fanboy

oh without a doubt i give floyd more credit than manny for beating mosley, but i also give forrest 10 times more credit than floyd for beating mosley since mosley was prime. how could this be a great win? mosley had one good win and that win had a lot of things going on in it: no floyd testing program, marg's gloves, marg being drained, mosley clinching nonstop, margs walk into punches style meeting the biggest puncher of his career. give credit to mosley for sure but that doenst mean he was back. if mosley had gone on a nice winning streak hopkins style at his age that would point to him not being shot/faded but the opposite happened. he looked bad before and after the floyd fight. all the evidence points to a badly faded fighter.

[aboutfkntime]

immediately prior to that fight, EVERYONE said Mayweather was ducking Mosley

immediately after the fight was announced, EVERYONE said Floyd is getting knocked out

Pac ducked Mosley TWICE... they only got in there with Mosley after he fought Sergio Mora, when they could see he had trouble pulling the trigger

Mosley was P4P #3... and he was the #1 welter

that was a very good win

[GrandpaBernard]

he just wants floyd to have special i took a risk fighting mosley first points while ignoring that mosley looked awful in fights before and after the floyd fight which is a pretty good indication he was done. marg walked into mosleys power and that was that but his skills had completely eroded and that was clear in the mayorga fight. this is all laughable of course because a guy like forrest never gets much credit for beating a prime mosley but floyd has such low standards he beats a faded version and thats a great win? please

a risk that manny didn’t want to take

manny also waited out margarito who stock was at an all time low. Paul Willie was a credible opponent and right there

Shane whooped antony when Tony was the man

[daggum]

immediately prior to that fight, EVERYONE said Mayweather was ducking Mosley

immediately after the fight was announced, EVERYONE said Floyd is getting knocked out

Mosley was P4P #3... and he was the #1 welter

that was a very good win

everyone said floyd was ducking pac. didnt fight him. everyone said floyd was ducking marg. didnt fight him. everyone said he was ducking cotto. didnt fight him. oh he fought the 39 year old guy who looked like azz against mayorga just 2 fights before? coincidence i'm sure.

also pac was #1 at welter not mosley. check the rankings. and p4p lists are for comedy purposes. did you think a 39 year old mosely was the third best fighter on the planet based on one good night? what about all his other fights for the last almost ten years?

[sugarsmosley]

Floyd win over Mosley was good at the time

manny over Mosley was okay. Shane just got done struggling with Mora to a draw. A draw with Mora

manny performance against Mosley was terrible to top it all off. Mosley was barely throwing back and manny struggled to catch him

fair enough.

however i disagree about the performance manny vs shane.. manny was able to get leather on shane whenever he wanted imo, shane realized early he couldnt trade with manny, the speed was overwhelming. from there on he fought timid and i believe manny carries shane in that fight

in hindsight, i cant stand mannys "Compassion" bull**** . in big time prize fights, its flat out foolish to let anyone hang around period. its disrespectful to boxing fans