How good of a win was beating Mosely for Floyd?

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  • Nay_Sayer
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    #61
    Originally posted by daggum
    also pac was #1 at welter not mosley. check the rankings.
    How do you get to be the #1 guy in the division when you have never beat the #1 guy in the division? Exactly how does that work?

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    • KingOfGlory
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      #62
      It was great. Mosley was coming off one of his best wins. He was linear champ and being ducked by a lot of the division. It was considered a dangerous fight for Floyd.

      You can always tell who actually saw the fight at the time and who is trying to push an agenda about it in hindsight.

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      • bojangles1987
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        #63
        It's obviously very good. Mosley was widely considered the WW champ at the time. Mosley had jumped in the ring to call him out after the Marquez fight, so it would have been a bad public look if Mayweather didn't fight him. Other than the second round, Mayweather controlled the fight with ease, and it's actually one of the few good examples of Mayweather being hurt and needing to show his toughness and survival skills. All and all it was a damn good win.

        We do have to take into consideration that Mosley hadn't fought in, what, a year and a half? His career around the Margarito fight wasn't great. A lot of his hype at the time was due to the Margarito fight, and considering he lost to Cotto, there was plenty of argument about whether Mosley was actually the best welterweight.

        But these are small complaints, kind of like with Pacquiao beating Cotto. They don't mean that much and don't take away from Mosley being a very good win for Floyd.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #64
          Originally posted by Black Jesus
          Mosely won a close decision against ODH....
          He dominated and Knocked Out Margarito. Margarito was coming off a bigger win then anything ODH ever had at 147
          Are you seriously arguing that Margarito beating Cotto is bigger than Oscar beating Whitaker? Or hell, if we're telling the truth, Oscar beating Trinidad?

          Oscar was 5x the welterweight Margarito ever was, and Mosley won a clear decision over him. It's not even close, that is Mosley's best win.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Black Jesus
            Most people seem to dismiss the fight as Mosely being washed up, and Floyd certainly made him look that way.....
            but Mosely was coming off the biggest win of his career, against one of the most feared Welters who everyone was saying Floyd was ducking.

            Also, Mosely was still good enough to go on and be an opponent for Pac after Floyd was done with him.

            My only hesitation here is that there was a bit of a lay off for Mosely following his destruction of Margarito.

            But I still feel this was a great win that Floyd gets very little credit for
            It was a very good win because there were plenty of people who thought Mayweather would lose. As for Mosley's inactivity beforehand, the earthquake in Haiti is to blame for that, not Floyd (Berto understandably pulled out to care for family members). It's easy to look back and say that Mosley was just old but at the time he was seen as an older great fighter with a shot to pull off the upset.

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            • VG_Addict
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              #66
              Floyd would have always beaten Mosley. Floyd is a master boxer, and Mosley is a slugger.

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              • TheMyspaceDayz
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                #67
                Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
                No. We saw what happens when a prime Shane faces a guy with elite boxing ability. We saw it twice in fact with both of the Forest fights. Prime Shane vs Prime Floyd @ 135 is a 50/50 fight, IMO..
                Wrong again.

                Forrest has power that Mayweather does not and is a larger, rangier fighter. Winky is ten times stronger than Mayweather. Those two styles are miles apart from Mayweathers. What they did is irrelevant here. The only 135 guys who were around or near 50/50 with lightweight Mosley are Durán and Whitaker. Mayweather? Ha.

                You’re one of the few guys here who I truly believe is wrong almost 100% of the time. I could offer some advice to turn those numbers around if you’re willing to learn. Could do it via message so it’s less embarrassing, if that’s better. You message me first.

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                • Nay_Sayer
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz
                  Wrong again.

                  Forrest has power that Mayweather does not and is a larger, rangier fighter. Winky is ten times stronger than Mayweather. Those two styles are miles apart from Mayweathers. What they did is irrelevant here. The only 135 guys who were around or near 50/50 with lightweight Mosley are Durán and Whitaker. Mayweather? Ha.

                  You’re one of the few guys here who I truly believe is wrong almost 100% of the time. I could offer some advice to turn those numbers around if you’re willing to learn. Could do it via message so it’s less embarrassing, if that’s better. You message me first.
                  Exactly how am I "wrong" when those two actually fought and Floyd took Mosley to SCHOOL?

                  Boxing isn't about strength or even speed. It's about SKILL. Skillz pay the billz, Einstein - and Floyd is the most skilled opponent Mosley has ever faced in the whole of his career. Is this even up for debate?

                  It's painfully obvious that YDKSAB..

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                  • Black Jesus
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                    #69
                    Really? When did ODH ever dominate and stop a fellow champion at 147 like Marg did to Cotto.
                    Don't get me wrong, not trying to diminish ODHs status, but no one was worried Mosely might get crippled or killed against ODH like they did when he fought Marg

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
                      Exactly how am I "wrong" when those two actually fought and Floyd took Mosley to SCHOOL?

                      Boxing isn't about strength or even speed. It's about SKILL. Skillz pay the billz, Einstein - and Floyd is the most skilled opponent Mosley has ever faced in the whole of his career. Is this even up for debate?

                      It's painfully obvious that YDKSAB..
                      Skills! Skills bro! Lmao. More casual BS from a guy who let’s an undefeated fighter do his talking for him.

                      Mosley > Castillo

                      By a lot

                      If an older, slower Mosley who is firing one shot at a time nearly KO’s Mayweather then a much faster, combination punching Mosley destroys him. Pretty clear to me. Floyd fans seem to forget that Shane wasn’t a one shot KO machine. Never was. Imagine 30 of those shots coming at Mayweather, even faster with clean up hooks and body punching coming behind them. Doesn’t bode well for Floyd.

                      Without the power to keep Shane off of him, he gets broken down. Would be surprised if he makes it the distance.

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