Al Haymon cost Kownacki life changing money

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  • champion4ever
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    #51
    Originally posted by sunny31
    I dont know why you're talking about a 'great white hope' angle, not sure what that has to do with anything.

    When Miller pulled out of the Joshua fight, Kownacki was offered the fight before Ruiz...his team advised him to turn it down and now he will most likely never see anything like $6 million again.
    Why was he offered $6 mil from Joshua; Because they knew he was a low risk opponent. Who was also an undefeated, limited, cherrypicked white Polish fighter from Brooklyn with a padded record of bums on his resume?

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      #52
      Originally posted by champion4ever
      Why was he offered $6 mil from Joshua; Because they knew he was a low risk opponent. Who was also an undefeated, limited, cherrypicked white Polish fighter from Brooklyn with a padded record of bums on his resume?
      He was offered 6 million because that's only like 20% of AJs purse. The dude sells everything out, even against then, relatively unknown dudes like Ruiz.

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        #53
        Originally posted by champion4ever
        I swear that a lot of you boxing fans don't know shit about boxing or sport in general. Losses are part of boxing as well as wins. No one stays undefeated forever. The more you fight and who you fight the greater your chances are of losing.

        Since when has one loss have defined a boxer's entire career? I swear some of you guys heads are buried so far up your asses that you have no sense of reality at all. You allow your zeal and hatred of certain fighters, platforms and networks to cloud your better judgement of all rationality and objectivity.
        Youre on point here. They hate Al (quite clear what the reason is). So when of his fighters lose its time to trash him. Breadman is on record as saying Al let's the fighters chose their own path. He then finds the most money for them.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Sparked_26
          Is that the sell with him or wasnt it not just that he is Polish and they've got a comparable community to the Irish worldwide and in the states and they like the fights.

          The heavyweight champion is white and the last dominant heavy of the previous era was white. Practically or socially I'm not sure it's an angle that has any legs or is a palatable to any sensible promoter
          Both were factors but to the Barclay's center it was mostly because of his Polish nationality but on Fox television, it has more because of his being white in order to attract white viewers.

          Also, that is absolutely correct; The former and current Heavyweight champions are white except for Anthony Joshua but neither were American white champions. They are both from Europe.

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          • Madison Boxing
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            #55
            Having an 0 is often a bad sign in a fighter. 9 out of 10 times it means they've never fought any one. Loads of these pbc 'monsters' haven't fought anyone and lose when they step it up

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            • sunny31
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              #56
              Originally posted by champion4ever
              Why was he offered $6 mil from Joshua; Because they knew he was a low risk opponent. Who was also an undefeated, limited, cherrypicked white Polish fighter from Brooklyn with a padded record of bums on his resume?
              Yeah but the question isnt why was he offered it...it is why didnt he take it? That seems to be what you're not understanding

              It's his teams job to understand his level and match him accordingly, if you know you've got a guy that isnt of the required level, and he hits the lottery...do you go and cash the ticket? $6 million would have set him up for life...

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                #57
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                He prevented Kownacki taking the Joshua fight last year and now look. Worst manager ever.
                I am shocked. Truly shocked. This is the first post you've ever done that makes sense. Well done you.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by sunny31
                  Yeah but the question isnt why was he offered it...it is why didnt he take it? That seems to be what you're not understanding

                  It's his teams job to understand his level and match him accordingly, if you know you've got a guy that isnt of the required level, and he hits the lottery...do you go and cash the ticket? $6 million would have set him up for life...
                  You're right. He should have taken the money back then but he was being loyal to Al Haymon because outside of Deontay Wilder regaining his WBC title back which he will by the way, he has no other place left to go.

                  One cannot expect to have a very long career with that of type of fighting style; A face first brawler, eating those many punches over a long period of time will not only age a fighter but would shorten his career and shave many years off his prime as well.

                  Also, once you factor in his overall, physical conditioning it was just a matter of time before he would be exposed.

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                    #59
                    Face first brawler, shorten career, 29/30 years old when offer 5/6m for AJ, only a matter of time before he would be exposed..... All the recipe for taking that amazing offer, nothing to lose and losing to AJ wouldn’t be “Exposed”. And if he had won “Like Ruiz did” another lucrative rematch.

                    So yeah PBC/Al Haymon definitely costed him millions big time, that’s another HW along with Wilder and Luis Ortiz that Al Haymon has costed millions.. for his own gain.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Toffee
                      It was never about Kownacki, it was all about creating a credible opponent for Wilder to knockout.

                      Feel for Kownacki. No, he was never top level, but he could have 5 or 6 million last June... gone.

                      This right here.

                      All about creating hype around low level fighters so they can feed them to Wilder to boost his aura and earn big money from fools that fall for it.

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