Al Haymon cost Kownacki life changing money

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  • Slicc
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    #81
    Originally posted by El_Mero
    Not the 1st fighter in the stable that he ordered NOT to take life changing money! Wtf kind of advisor does that?
    The kind of advisor that puts the business before the people who keep it running. Welcome to PBC.

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    • Mister Wolf
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      #82
      Originally posted by El_Mero
      Not the 1st fighter in the stable that he ordered NOT to take life changing money! Wtf kind of advisor does that?
      An advisor that's really functioning as a promoter.

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      • El_Mero
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        #83
        Originally posted by Slicc
        The kind of advisor that puts the business before the people who keep it running. Welcome to PBC.
        Originally posted by Mister Wolf
        An advisor that's really functioning as a promoter.
        Couldnt have said it better myself

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        • Outwest Exp 355
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          #84
          Originally posted by Laligalaliga
          The bottom line is AJ has done what both of them couldn't do combined.
          #Fact.
          AJ’s career is no different. He’s been carefully matched throughout his entire career. But I don’t hold that against him because he’s a fighter, and he fights whoever they put in front of them.

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          • QballLobo
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            #85
            Originally posted by SNlPER
            Seems to me that he made the right choice by selecting Andy Ruiz Jr. Got two big fights out of it, and Andy made a lot of $$$.
            That was in spite of Haymon’s intentions. Al thought Ruiz had no chance to win. He thought he would use the Joshua loss to build up his name to feed to his own HW stable at PBC later. Hence why he allowed Ruiz to agree to those rematch clause terms. He knew it was the only way to get the fight and thought a rematch would never happen so it didn’t matter.
            Uncle Al is trying to line his pockets at PBC. He’s shown the fighters best interests aren’t his top priority.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              He prevented Kownacki taking the Joshua fight last year and now look. Worst manager ever.
              - -Night creeping Uncle Al Vegas bunker filling up in his own waste water.

              Time to cut bait and grab a life preserver.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Outwest Exp 355
                AJ’s career is no different. He’s been carefully matched throughout his entire career. But I don’t hold that against him because he’s a fighter, and he fights whoever they put in front of them.
                - -U been not so carefully outing U inner sissy.

                AJ came to America and only a self identified Mexican willing to man up to AJ.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  He prevented Kownacki taking the Joshua fight last year and now look. Worst manager ever.
                  From browsing the post on this thread, it appears that one of two things (or both) happened:

                  1. Al Haymon steered Kownacki away from a shot at Anthony Joshua in lieu of a shot at Deontay Wilder

                  2. Kownacki himself (or his manager) said he wasn't quite ready for Joshua and that he needed a few more fights under his belt.

                  I don't know the inner workings of the PBC, however I do know that:

                  1. Luis Ortiz was also steered away from Anthony Joshua in lieu of a rematch with Deontay Wilder, which he received after beating a few journeymen/fringe contenders (Razjan Cojanu, Travis Kauffman, and Christian Hammer). He was expected to win those fights and he won them so he got the Wilder rematch as promised

                  2. Adam Kownacki has also faced a few journeymen/fringe contenders (Gerald Washington, Chris Arreola and Robert Helenius), with the expectation that he would win and then receive a shot at Deontay Wilder as promised. Kownacki was favored in all three fights but he lost the last one. It happens and I don't know that you can necessarily blame Al Haymon for Kownacki losing what was supposed to be a tune-up/stay-busy fight.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    Yes, like that bogus fight. Was Price pushed up the rankings as well? Like they did Helenius? to Justify the fight?
                    Yes, actually. The WBA does it constantly. I was even saying when this got announced that eliminators would be far better if they were competitive fights. It’s why I was happy when Price knocked Povetkin down. I’d say that Upsets like this look good on the ABC orgs, but they don’t care.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by QballLobo
                      That was in spite of Haymon’s intentions. Al thought Ruiz had no chance to win. He thought he would use the Joshua loss to build up his name to feed to his own HW stable at PBC later. Hence why he allowed Ruiz to agree to those rematch clause terms. He knew it was the only way to get the fight and thought a rematch would never happen so it didn’t matter.
                      Uncle Al is trying to line his pockets at PBC. He’s shown the fighters best interests aren’t his top priority.
                      How can you say that Haymon thought Ruiz had no chance? Many boxing fans including myself said at the time the list came out “they won’t pick Ruiz, his hand speed would cause issues.”

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