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  • D4thincarnation
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    #151
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    Nothing suggests an offer for that amount was made. This indicates they reached out to see if he was available and found out he had already signed a contract to appear on a fight in NYC where he is the crowd favorite and a big ticket seller.

    If you are suggesting Haymon let him out the contract,maybe he could of but when was the last time anyone did that without a lawsuit?


    EDDIE HEARN has placed Adam Kownacki top of a four-man shortlist to face Anthony Joshua on June 1 - but he faces a major problem.
    However, a major problem is that the Pole is managed by Al Haymon, who will not want his boxer fighting on a rival’s show.
    Who needs enemies when you got friends like Haymon.

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      #152
      Originally posted by _Rexy_
      https://*********.com/povetkin-price...or-works/13052

      A heavyweight clash between Alexander Povetkin and David Price is very close to being finalized for the undercard of the heavyweight unification clash between Anthony Joshua and Joseph Parker on March 31 in Cardiff, Wales. Joshua promoter Eddie Hearn told the Liverpool Echo newspaper that “We’re nearly there. Price has agreed, Povetkin has agreed and we hope that by the end of this week we will be announcing Povetkin versus Price at the stadium for the WBA Inter-Continental title and the number one position with the WBA for Anthony Joshua…this is a massive opportunity for David Price, don’t blink in that one.”
      Povetkin already had that title. He was defending it. It wasn't an ordered eliminator.

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        #153
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        That's the problem. Haymon is supposed to be his manager, not promoter. He's using loop holes t break the Ali act.

        He is clearly not acting in his fighters best interest as a manager should do.

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          #154
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxi...z-Hunter-Charr




          Who needs enemies when you got friends like Haymon.
          Hearn can put him anywhere he wishes. They called to inquire, manager told them he had a contract signed to fight on a PBC show already so he wasn't available. That isn't blocking the fight or preventing him from making life changing money.

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            #155
            Originally posted by D4thincarnation
            I guess this is why they have the Muhammad Ali act, Amazing how Haymon is allowed to be in breach of this.
            Golden Boy Promotions' $300 million lawsuit against Premier Boxing Champions creator Al Haymon on alleged antitrust law violations has been dismissed by a federal judge.


            Judge dismisses Golden Boy lawsuit against PBC creator Al Haymon

            A federal judge on Thursday dismissed Golden Boy Promotions' $300 million lawsuit against Premier Boxing Champions creator Al Haymon and his various business en******, which alleged they repeatedly violated antitrust laws and the Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act in an attempt to monopolize boxing.

            The case never got to trial as U.S. District Judge John F. Walter of the Court of Central California granted Haymon's motion for summary judgment, ending the lawsuit that Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions, once with close ties to Haymon before a bitter falling out, filed in May 2015.

            "The court concludes that plaintiffs have failed to demonstrate that there is a genuine issue of material fact as to any of their federal claims for relief," Walter wrote in a 24-page ruling, a copy of which was obtained by ESPN.

            "On behalf of our clients, Haymon Sports, LLC and its CEO, Alan Haymon, we are very pleased with the decision of the Court to grant summary judgment and dismiss all of the meritless claims filed by Golden Boy Promotions," attorney Michael Williams, of Quinn Emanuel, said in a statement given to ESPN.

            "The Court's ruling makes clear that the efforts by Haymon Sports were intended to, and actually did, increase competition in the boxing industry, to the benefit of the boxers, other promoters, and the fans."

            Golden Boy spokesman Stefan Friedman told ESPN that Golden Boy was "obviously disappointed with the judge's ruling. However, our top priority at Golden Boy is putting on the best fights for the fans and promoting the best shows in the business. We will continue to focus our energies on working with anyone and everyone to make the best fights happen."

            The suit alleged that Haymon, who hires promoters on a card-by-card basis to handle the nuts and bolts of his PBC shows, conspired with investment firm Waddell & Reed to violate federal and state laws aimed at protecting fighters to monopolize boxing. It did this, the suit said, by buying time on a multitude of television networks, including ESPN, NBC, CBS, Fox and others, in an effort to block non-PBC promoters from having potential television outlets.

            Golden Boy also accused Haymon of squatting on venues around the country to prevent other promoters from staging boxing cards there.

            Haymon secured more than $500 million from Waddell & Reed to bankroll the venture, although it did secure a rights fee for its cards from cable network Spike, according to the ruling.

            The suit, also brought by Golden Boy minority partner Bernard Hopkins, also alleged that Haymon violated the Ali Act, a federal law that makes it illegal to serve as both a manager, who has a fiduciary duty to a boxer, and a promoter, who does not.

            It alleged that Haymon functions as a de facto promoter in addition to managing or advising a stable of more than 200 fighters, many of whom were once promoted by Golden Boy before the falling out.

            In rejecting Golden Boy's allegations, Walter wrote, "Plaintiffs contend that Haymon Sports has used these provisions to force its boxers to work with 'sham' promoters and/or prevent its fighters from entering into contracts with Golden Boy and other 'legitimate' promoters. However, not a single boxer has testified that he has been coerced into selecting a particular promoter or prevented from selecting the promoter of his choice. In fact, defendants have submitted the declarations of six boxers who testify directly to the contrary."

            The six fighters were identified in the ruling as Daniel Jacobs, John Molina, Oyewale Omotoso, Shawn Porter, Julian Williams and Leo Santa Cruz.

            "Golden Boy's invocation of the Ali Act -- which the Court recognized exists to protect boxers, not promoters -- was especially hypocritical given that the Court cited evidence that confirms Haymon Sports has consistently looked to protect the interests of its boxers against one-sided and oppressive promoter contracts," Williams said. "Any decline in Golden Boy's business cannot be attributed to the hard work and legal activities of my clients. We remain disappointed that Golden Boy chose to use the court system to try and stifle lawful competition and make false and unsupported accusation about my clients."

            Walter also wrote of Haymon's willingness to work with various promoters as a reason for dismissing the case.

            "It is undisputed that Haymon Sports has worked with promoters across the industry (including Golden Boy, Top Rank, DiBella Entertainment, and others) to secure high-paid bouts and title fights," Walter wrote. "Since January 1, 2015, at least three fights have taken place involving Haymon managed boxers and boxers promoted by Golden Boy."

            Those fights were Deontay Wilder's heavyweight title victory against Bermane Stiverne, and Canelo Alvarez's middleweight title defense against Amir Khan -- Golden Boy's most lucrative bout of 2016 -- and an interim featherweight world title fight between Oscar Escandon and Robinson Castellanos.

            The ruling also cited an impending fight being made between Golden Boy and Haymon fighters, the recently finalized Alvarez-Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. bout scheduled for May 6.

            Walter cited Haymon's deal with Top Rank to make the revenue record-breaking fight between Floyd Mayweather, whom he managed, and Manny Pacquiao in 2015, illustrating a willingness to work with non-PBC promoters when it was in the best interest of his fighters and company.

            "This evidence clearly demonstrates that when it is in the best interests of Haymon Sports' boxers, and consistent with its fiduciary duties, Haymon Sports freely permits its boxers to participate in bouts promoted by Golden Boy and other 'legitimate' promoters," Walter wrote. "Moreover, the fact that these fights were extremely lucrative for these so-called 'legitimate' promoters demonstrates that Haymon Sports is not attempting to harm competition by unlawfully tying out or destroying these promoters."

            Walter further wrote that it was actually Golden Boy that declined to do business with Haymon at times rather than the other way around.

            "There is absolutely no evidence that Haymon Sports has ever refused a request by Golden Boy to promote one of its boxers during the covered period," he wrote. He noted that in May 2015, a manager suggested to Golden Boy matchmaker Robert Diaz that he should try to place heavyweight contender Luis Ortiz on a PBC card to which Diaz responded, "Are you serious? You do know we have sued Haymon right?"

            Thursday's ruling came eight months after Top Rank, which filed a similar $100 million federal anti-trust lawsuit against Haymon, settled the case out of court. One of the terms of the settlement was that the exclusivity provision in Haymon's deals with the various networks that televised PBC cards was dropped, which is what opened the door for Golden Boy to secure a deal with ESPN for at least 42 cards over the next two years. That agreement was announced last week.

            Walter noted the ESPN deal as another piece of evidence that Haymon's PBC deal was not monopolistic.

            "Plaintiffs have been unable to present any evidence of harm to competition," Walter wrote in his conclusion. "Instead, Plaintiffs have merely presented evidence of harm to themselves."

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              #156
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Having a signed contract in place isn't blocking a fight from happening.
              Yes, because Haymon can force him to fight on that card, or do the best by Kownacki and see him get life changing money.

              Haymon decided against letting Kownacki getting life changing money.

              While Adam Kownacki was at the top of the list of options to face Anthony Joshua on June 1st, his manager has pulled his fighter from consideration.



              While Adam Kownacki was at the top of the list of options to face Anthony Joshua on June 1st, the Brooklyn based boxer’s manager has pulled his fighter from consideration.

              Kownacki’s manager, Keith Connolly revealed in an interview with Boxing Scene that the undefeated heavyweight is in no-way an option to replace Jarrell Miller on June 1st at Madison Square Garden.

              “The rumors of Adam Kownacki fighting Anthony Joshua on June 1st are not true,” Connolly told BoxingScene.com. “Al Haymon and I have made a deal for a fight sometime this summer for Adam to fight on PBC, in New York, where he has a huge fan base. Details of the fight will be released over the next couple weeks.”



              Kownacki was the first choice.

              Haymon's deal got in the way, and Haymon wouldn't back down.

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                #157
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Hearn can put him anywhere he wishes. They called to inquire, manager told them he had a contract signed to fight on a PBC show already so he wasn't available. That isn't blocking the fight or preventing him from making life changing money.

                Yes, Haymon blocked it, he could easily said, you go and make your money, we put on a card later in the year.

                Thanks for proving that Haymon blocked it.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  Joe Gallagher is smith's manager. He and his boxer decides what they accept or turn down, it had nothing to do with Hearn.
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                  Good to know.

                  Was Big Dunn lying when he said Hearn advised Smith during negotiations to not move off a number, so negotiation would fail?
                  Took me a while to find this. Just wanted to make sure you were clear that Ray* doesn't know what the f-ck he is talking about.

                  If Hearn didn't tell Callum as this article suggests then it is clear that Hearn cost Callum life changing money.

                  So where is the thread from Robbie Barrett?

                  https://www.************.com/2020/02...alvarez-fight/

                  Smith Trainer Unaware Of Offer For Canelo Fight

                  Callum’s trainer Joe Gallagher wasn’t aware of any offer made by Golden Boy. It appears that Hearn failed to share the information. It would be interesting if Hearn chose not to tell Callum as well. That would be a real kicker.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    Took me a while to find this. Just wanted to make sure you were clear that Ray* doesn't know what the f-ck he is talking about.

                    If Hearn didn't tell Callum as this article suggests then it is clear that Hearn cost Callum life changing money.

                    So where is the thread from Robbie Barrett?

                    https://www.************.com/2020/02...alvarez-fight/

                    Smith Trainer Unaware Of Offer For Canelo Fight

                    Callum’s trainer Joe Gallagher wasn’t aware of any offer made by Golden Boy. It appears that Hearn failed to share the information. It would be interesting if Hearn chose not to tell Callum as well. That would be a real kicker.
                    https://www.***************.net/2019...ate-shortlist/

                    ADAM KOWNACKI The top candidate of the moment due to Brooklyn, New York ties. Also, unlikely to be chosen for an opportunity outright. Therefore, Kownacki’s best chance of getting a title shot without being mandatory would be to snap Eddie Hearn’s hand off should the contract come his way

                    Unfortunately Haymon blocked this pay day.

                    It would provide promoters with a saleable storyline, but Adam Kownacki won’t step in for Jarrell Miller to challenge Anthony Joshua. The unbeaten Polish heavyweight contender is Miller’s close friend and definitely would help sell the remaining 6,000 or so tickets for Joshua’s U.S. debut on June 1 at Madison Square Garden. Based on how Kownacki and Miller typically assess their regular, spirited sparring sessions, the Brooklyn-bred Kownacki also would have at least as good a chance to upset Joshua as Miller.


                    Also the announcement that Kownacki had agreed to fight on a Haymon summer card came after Hearn and Joshua wanted Kownacki as the Miller replacement.

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                      #160
                      Al Haymon has full control over his fighters. They can't even discuss a fight without his permission.

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