Al Haymon cost Kownacki life changing money

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  • champion4ever
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    #41
    I swear that a lot of you boxing fans don't know shit about boxing or sport in general. Losses are part of boxing as well as wins. No one stays undefeated forever. The more you fight and who you fight the greater your chances are of losing.

    Since when has one loss have defined a boxer's entire career? I swear some of you guys heads are buried so far up your asses that you have no sense of reality at all. You allow your zeal and hatred of certain fighters, platforms and networks to cloud your better judgement of all rationality and objectivity.

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    • DaNeutral.
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      #42
      Al haymon and the pbc are scum. I don't hide my hate for the PBC but although I get accused of hating for racist reasons it's not, it's cuz haymon is using his stable as pawns to do what's best for his business and not what's best for his fighters.

      He says he is an advisor but he's advising they walk away from great opportunities cuz it doesn't benefit haymons business. SCUM BAG.

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      • sunny31
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        #43
        Originally posted by champion4ever
        No, he was never shit to begin with. You are an intelligent guy sir. You've seen his style. He is nothing but a human punching bag.

        One cannot become a world champion with that kind of style of his because it shorten careers. Eating those many punches would not only inevitably shave years off his boxing career but when you factor in his overall physical conditioning; It will age him very quickly also.

        The only thing he had going for himself was his white skin tone complexion. He had the complexion for the connection. That was his appeal.

        He will always be able to sell out the Barclay's Center given his Polish background. So he will be back.
        Without realising you are proving his point...I don't think you understand the thread

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          #44
          Said this at the time.

          This lad seemed to swallow a lot of s.hit.

          Why would he not want to get that money? Don't think most fighters are ready when they get to the shot but its prize fighting.

          We forget that. But in pure pragmatic terms if he took that fight he'd have had an extremely successful prize fighting career even if AJ sparked him in a few rounds.

          He turned down a shot for millions against a foreign fighter in his hometown. Its unfathomable. Completely and utterly bewildering.

          Ruiz took a chance and smashed AJ. He's alright now. He's won the game.
          Last edited by Sparked_26; 03-08-2020, 06:17 AM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by sunny31
            Without realising you are proving his point...I don't think you understand the thread
            I agree. That whole "Great White Hope" angle or gimmick has been completely and temporarily shattered with this loss. I don't know if you are from the U.S or the U.K. But stateside there is nothing like a white heavyweight champion.

            However, a single loss doesn't define one's whole entire career. He can easily bounce back and recover from this. He can turn this setback into a comeback. Then he will become marketable all over again.

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              #46
              Originally posted by champion4ever
              I agree. That whole "Great White Hope" angle or gimmick has been completely and temporarily shattered with this loss. I don't know if you are from the U.S or the U.K. But stateside there is nothing like a white heavyweight champion.

              However, a single loss doesn't define one's whole entire career. He can easily bounce back and recover from this. He can turn this setback into a comeback. Then he will become marketable all over again.
              Is that the sell with him or wasnt it not just that he is Polish and they've got a comparable community to the Irish worldwide and in the states and they like the fights.

              The heavyweight champion is white and the last dominant heavy of the previous era was white. Practically or socially I'm not sure it's an angle that has any legs or is a palatable to any sensible promoter

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              • Thuglife Nelo
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                #47
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                He prevented Kownacki taking the Joshua fight last year and now look. Worst manager ever.
                Kownacki asks Haymon, “would my retirement savings fund that you setup for us had been better if I took the AJ fight or Hellenius fight?”

                Haymon be like: “uhhh I got another meeting to attend to..”

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                • Laligalaliga
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Outwest Exp 355
                  It’s not my 6 million so I could give 2 ****s. His people didn’t think he was ready so go cry to them.
                  Neither is it my problem that wilder rejected a $120m to fave AJ.
                  Kowaski is done with no pay day.
                  Ruiz is the best winner in all these drama.

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                  • Clegg
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                    #49
                    Always felt Kownacki was on the same stuff as Miller and knew he'd fail a test and not get the fight anyway

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                    • sunny31
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by champion4ever
                      I agree. That whole "Great White Hope" angle or gimmick has been completely and temporarily shattered with this loss. I don't know if you are from the U.S or the U.K. But stateside there is nothing like a white heavyweight champion.

                      However, a single loss doesn't define one's whole entire career. He can easily bounce back and recover from this. He can turn this setback into a comeback. Then he will become marketable all over again.
                      I dont know why you're talking about a 'great white hope' angle, not sure what that has to do with anything.

                      When Miller pulled out of the Joshua fight, Kownacki was offered the fight before Ruiz...his team advised him to turn it down and now he will most likely never see anything like $6 million again.

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