Al Haymon cost Kownacki life changing money

[Robbie Barrett]

Yes. He advised Smith during negotiations to not move off a number that would cause the deal to fall through. Instead he allowed BJS to take the fight for a lesser amount.

Stop lying you clown. Haymon prevented Kownacki even negotiating. Smith could have took the fight if he wanted it. Completely different.

[The Big Dunn]

Who says he doesn't fight Canelo for even more money by letting the fight marinate some more. Smith can grow his brand and get a bigger slice of the pie.

None of the big names want Kownacki, and if he is getting beat by gatekeepers like Helenius then it is unlikey he will be able to beat anyone of note to get him back to getting a big money offer.


If you disagree with the point of Haymon messing up a big money fight for Kownacki then why aren't you defending the decision rather that deflecting it with Hearn and Smith?

Now you are in favor of marinating. That is a huge 180. I don't see the competition available at 168 that will elevate Smith into a higher purse bracket.

He got beat by Helenius. If he rectifies that loss and then has more wins he is right back in the picture. The reason he would be selected by the big names in the division is he is a proven ticket seller. with a KO loss to Helenius, he is a vulnerable ticket seller. Those are the kind of guys that get fights when they lose-example Broner.

I am not deflecting anything. It appears to anyone rational that Hearn cost Smith life changing money. I was just wondering why no thread on it.

[The Big Dunn]

Stop lying you clown. Haymon prevented Kownacki even negotiating. Smith could have took the fight if he wanted it. Completely different.

Oh, ok. So it was Gallagher that cost him life changing money, not Hearn. So why no thread?

[The Big Dunn]

lol here we go again with your propaganda. if callum smith had taken the offer over BJS, would hearn have been "blocking BJS from his career payday"?

why would a manager advise his ring magazine belt-holding client to accept the same offer given to a vacant belt-holder from a different division?

don't be a clown.

Those are quotes directly from the article to support my claim. If you feel it is propaganda, take it up with the author of the article and/or the site that initially posted it.

[Robbie Barrett]

Oh, ok. So it was Gallagher that cost him life changing money, not Hearn. So why no thread?

Smith got offers and turned them down. - His choice.

Kownacki couldn't negotiate and couldn't take the fight. - Not his choice.

You know the difference. Haymon cost Kownacki 6 mil+ because of PBC, which is sinking anyway.

[The Big Dunn]

Smith got offers and turned them down. - His choice.

Kownacki couldn't negotiate and couldn't take the fight. - Not his choice.

You know the difference. Haymon cost Kownacki 6 mil+ because of PBC, which is sinking anyway.

IYO Haymon cost Kownacki life changing money, even though kownacki never got an offer. Yet Gallagher and Hearn have Callum turn down an offer from Canelo/GBP and they aren't responsible for costing him life changing money.

Ok, just cheking.

[Robbie Barrett]

IYO Haymon cost Kownacki life changing money, even though kownacki never got an offer. Yet Gallagher and Hearn have Callum turn down an offer from Canelo/GBP and they aren't responsible for costing him life changing money.

Ok, just cheking.

Smith had a choice. Haymon took Kownacki's choice away. Try and spin but you can't change these facts.

[D4thincarnation]

Now you are in favor of marinating. That is a huge 180. I don't see the competition available at 168 that will elevate Smith into a higher purse bracket.

He got beat by Helenius. If he rectifies that loss and then has more wins he is right back in the picture. The reason he would be selected by the big names in the division is he is a proven ticket seller. with a KO loss to Helenius, he is a vulnerable ticket seller. Those are the kind of guys that get fights when they lose-example Broner.

I am not deflecting anything. It appears to anyone rational that Hearn cost Smith life changing money. I was just wondering why no thread on it.

Benavidez, Jacobs, Lemieux, Eubank, plenty of names to elevate him to a higher level.

Beat Helenius or not, he won't get back to that level and is unlikely to land any big fight.

Fury don't want him Wilder and Joshua don't need him. He ain't getting no big shot.

Feel sorry for the guy, would have been set for life but Haymon's stopped him fighting Joshua then the cherry picking went wrong.


The topic is Haymon and Kownacki, like I said, you have not defended the decision that cost a guy life changing money, all you have done is try and deflect.

But I guess that is all you can try and do.

Tell everyone to look over here and ignore the stuff that you can't defend.

Your silence on the issue speaks volumes.

[The Big Dunn]

Benavidez, Jacobs, Lemieux, Eubank, plenty of names to elevate him to a higher level.

Beat Helenius or not, he won't get back to that level and is unlikely to land any big fight.

Fury don't want him Wilder and Joshua don't need him. He ain't getting no big shot.

Feel sorry for the guy, would have been set for life but Haymon's stopped him fighting Joshua then the cherry picking went wrong.


The topic is Haymon and Kownacki, like I said, you have not defended the decision that cost a guy life changing money, all you have done is try and deflect.

But I guess that is all you can try and do.

Tell everyone to look over here and ignore the stuff that you can't defend.

Your silence on the issue speaks volumes.

Those names will not elevate his purse status relative to Canelo. DAZN has made it public that they are not looking to pay fighters as much as they did when they were handing out deals when they were more flush with cash. I don't see how Smith gets a higher offer later.

You can't predict the future. As for the AJ fight back then, Kownacki surely loses that fight. Why would Haymon put any young fighter in a situation like he did with Lubin (charlo)or like Fernando Vargas (tito) and put them in with a top guy well before they are ready?

My silence is because it is preposterous that Haymon cost kownacki life changing money. I asked robbie why no thread for Callum because if he feels this way he should surely feel Hearn cost callum life changing money as it was a bigger offer he turned down.

Why you felt the need to answer a question not directed at you is beyond me.

[The Big Dunn]

Smith had a choice. Haymon took Kownacki's choice away. Try and spin but you can't change these facts.

You posted no offer was made to Kownacki. I don't see how a choice can be taken away if no offer is extended. Not spinning anything just wondering where the thread was fr Callum being cost life changing money.