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  • #51
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
    What's so bad about getting beaten by Mayweather and Pacquaio?

    Beat the #1 and Lineal Champion at 140 and P4P Top 5 and also beat a very good Collazo to win the WBC at 147.

    Not even close to the biggest hype job. Plus Hatton's career was longer than 10 years ago anyway
    With that logic, what's so bad about losing to Tyson Fury? two time Ring champ, lineal champ, etc. etc

    Whats so bad about losing a debatable match to Canelo on the cards? #1 and lineal champ at 160, etc. etc.

    This is what's wrong with boxing. You will have the #1 and #2 guys fight in the division, and the loser is a ****ing bum. And everyone wonders why guys don't want to fight the best.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
      you don't seem to understand how boxing works

      1) Monzon is not compared to Golovkin when evaluating greatness

      a fighter is judged on what he accomplished in the sport

      FACT: Monzon > Golovkin

      2) if Monzon fought in our era, he would have the same advantages

      3) I would take the proven Monzon over the (still) largely-unproven Golovkin


      Man idk...I respect the past greats, I really do...they pave the way for the future.

      But with Monzon, I have just never seen it from him on film...a lot of past greats I think could compete in any era, especially taking weight class differences and training regimens into account...Monzon just always looks a bit amateurish skill wise imho and a bit small/skinny (for 160).

      He was a really tough guy though...he did fight almost always in Argentina so I kind of look at results like that with a side-eye...to really be great I think you need to travel a bit...and besides Griffith I don't really see the names on Monzon's list either...and Emile did finish with 22 losses.

      So accomplishments wise I don't really see it over GGG...and head to head I really don't see it...I think Monzon would clearly be fighting below 160 if he fought today...who knows though maybe I'm wrong...but he always even looks slower than GGG to me which would be one way to beat GGG...so yeah I just have never really seen it with him.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDrOu2LyNJg

      I just don't see the same style as today's guys in a fight like this.
      Last edited by Boxing_1013; 02-28-2020, 02:22 PM.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
        Probably GGG.
        Wilder wasn't billed as anything but a puncher fans were legit claiming GGG would destroy a prime McCallum, Roy Jones Jr, B-Hop, Monzon, claiming he was the greatest MW ever etc

        And Wilder at least beat Ortiz in decisive fashion. I genuinely thought Jacobs and Derevchenko both beat GGG.

        GGG is a better boxer/fighter but he was way, way more overhyped than Wilder
        I've been on this site for a few years...never really noticed those comments about GGG but that may have been before my time.

        I'm about as high on GGG as anyone I've seen on here...and think it is certainly fair to compare him to those guys you mentioned though...his run at MW was at least comparable to any of those guys.

        I agree that SD was a legit close fight...I could see someone getting to 7 rounds for Sergei there...I don't think the fight with Jacobs was that close though...can't really see Jacobs getting to 7 rounds or even 6...he did fight a good fight that night though.

        How did you view the 2 Canelo fights with GGG?

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        • #54
          Triple G is a hyped fighter but he IS a good fighter. 1diotic to even mention him.

          Wilder has legit power, that power is no hype, his boxing ability is.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
            With that logic, what's so bad about losing to Tyson Fury? two time Ring champ, lineal champ, etc. etc

            Whats so bad about losing a debatable match to Canelo on the cards? #1 and lineal champ at 160, etc. etc.

            This is what's wrong with boxing. You will have the #1 and #2 guys fight in the division, and the loser is a ****ing bum. And everyone wonders why guys don't want to fight the best.
            Well Mayweather and Pacquaio are two of the best fighters that ever lived so that's one difference.

            Well yeah I wouldn't consider GGG a hype job. Wilder maybe more so but not really.

            You were calling Hatton one though, when he's not.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
              He was built up as an unbeatable fighter, people claiming he was among the greatest ever. People got carried away with the hype.
              Didn’t you say Canelo was gonna stop him? Pretty sure you did.

              Fact is Golovkin was already past prime by the time people stepped up to fight him. By the time Canelo fought Golovkin I wasn’t even picking him by stoppage anymore, but decision.

              Golovkin had more hype I’d say, but he’s also plainly a much better fighter than Wilder. Broner was probably the biggest hypejob, Spence just behind.
              Last edited by SplitSecond; 02-28-2020, 02:34 PM.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
                GGG is hype job because he had 2 close fights with the best boxer in the world?
                I think the most overhyped fighter of the last 10 years is Roman Gonzalez.

                But GGG didn’t have just close fights with Canelo, I thought he lost to Jacobs and Derevyanchenko. And I really don’t think the rematch with Canelo was all that close at all.

                What makes GGG a hypejob though, is his fans and his people making topics about him and how he could beat anyone in the past and anyone from 154 to 175. It was actually pretty ridiculous. Saying that the claims of being overhyped comes from the Canelo fights shows that maybe you weren’t around to see the hype this man was getting. He can beat SSR, Monzon, Hagler, etc, Ward, Froch, Kessler at 168. It was pretty ridiculous.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                  I think the most overhyped fighter of the last 10 years is Roman Gonzalez.

                  But GGG didn’t have just close fights with Canelo, I thought he lost to Jacobs and Derevyanchenko. And I really don’t think the rematch with Canelo was all that close at all.

                  What makes GGG a hypejob though, is his fans and his people making topics about him and how he could beat anyone in the past and anyone from 154 to 175. It was actually pretty ridiculous. Saying that the claims of being overhyped comes from the Canelo fights shows that maybe you weren’t around to see the hype this man was getting. He can beat SSR, Monzon, Hagler, etc, Ward, Froch, Kessler at 168. It was pretty ridiculous.
                  To be fair...guys like Froch and BJS are on record as saying they personally wanted no part of GGG at that time...so it wasn't really just his fans saying that.

                  How did you score GGG-Canelo 2 btw? I don't really see how anyone give that one to Nelo...he fought better but still fights too sporadically to really win a lot of rounds vs GGG...GGG is just always scoring in there.

                  SD was a very close fight though, agreed on that.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                    I think the most overhyped fighter of the last 10 years is Roman Gonzalez.

                    But GGG didn’t have just close fights with Canelo, I thought he lost to Jacobs and Derevyanchenko. And I really don’t think the rematch with Canelo was all that close at all.

                    What makes GGG a hypejob though, is his fans and his people making topics about him and how he could beat anyone in the past and anyone from 154 to 175. It was actually pretty ridiculous. Saying that the claims of being overhyped comes from the Canelo fights shows that maybe you weren’t around to see the hype this man was getting. He can beat SSR, Monzon, Hagler, etc, Ward, Froch, Kessler at 168. It was pretty ridiculous.
                    Gonzalez another with ATG level skills. Just because a guy can’t box on the backfoot they get sht on here.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      Well Mayweather and Pacquaio are two of the best fighters that ever lived so that's one difference.

                      Well yeah I wouldn't consider GGG a hype job. Wilder maybe more so but not really.

                      You were calling Hatton one though, when he's not.
                      I was just trying to show Robbie what he was doing by using the same logic.

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