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  • #61
    Originally posted by Boxing_1013 View Post
    To be fair...guys like Froch and BJS are on record as saying they personally wanted no part of GGG at that time...so it wasn't really just his fans saying that.

    How did you score GGG-Canelo 2 btw? I don't really see how anyone give that one to Nelo...he fought better but still fights too sporadically to really win a lot of rounds vs GGG...GGG is just always scoring in there.

    SD was a very close fight though, agreed on that.
    Froch also said it as a tongue in cheek comment. If you believe everything that comes out of Froch’s mouth, then you should also believe that he was interviewed again and asked to clarify his comments, in which he said it was tongue in cheek. Anyone who thinks Froch is scared of any MW is literally on drugs. When the guy fought basically every SMW in a SMW division that was deemed as a top 3 weight class at the time, and he fought all types of styles too, not just cherrypicking guys with no power, “Mexican style”, or some Steve Rolls, Dominic Wade, or some dude coming up from 2 weight classes down like Kell Brook.

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    • #62
      I don’t think Golovkin or Wilder were hype jobs. Getting a medal in the olympics, becoming world champion, Making title defenses? I don’t think anyone who accomplishes that is a hype job. Hype job is really a term I don’t like to use. I guess if I had to dig really deep for a hype job I’d maybe say someone like Gerry Cooney. Beat a few guys who were past their prime and lost every time he stepped up. Still a big fan of Cooney though.

      Maybe overhyped? Someone like Adrien Broner who has a larger fan base than normal because of out of the ring antics? I guess it’s subjective. Worldstarhiphop made Broner famous

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      • #63
        Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
        Gonzalez another with ATG level skills. Just because a guy can’t box on the backfoot they get sht on here.
        Gonzalez gets hit way too much. His defense is his face, which is why his prime didn’t last long. Longevity is part of being an ATG.

        ATG boxers wouldn’t be ATGs if they were only good for 3-4 years. Show the fans at LEAST a decade of your excellence.

        This dude got the top spot in the P4P list, placed there by fans and writers wanting to look like they know more boxing than anyone else. And this dude proves his worth by fighting a dude who was 29-29.

        I do not remember in my entire time as a boxing fan from the mid 1990s to present, as a baby boy to a 31 year old, seeing a worse opponent chosen by a top 10 P4P fighter, let alone a #1 P4P fighter. And his fight immediately before and after that weren’t all that either.

        Do you imagine the backlash Mayweather or Pacquiao would have gotten from everyone if they had chosen to fight some dude who was 29-29 when they were considered the best?

        The best thing that happened in boxing in the 2010s decade was Wanglek or whatever his name is, destroying the little hypejob like he did. That was so gratifying to watch. It was up there with Maidana humiliating Broner, and JMM finally getting his win vs Pacquiao.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
          Froch also said it as a tongue in cheek comment. If you believe everything that comes out of Froch’s mouth, then you should also believe that he was interviewed again and asked to clarify his comments, in which he said it was tongue in cheek. Anyone who thinks Froch is scared of any MW is literally on drugs. When the guy fought basically every SMW in a SMW division that was deemed as a top 3 weight class at the time, and he fought all types of styles too, not just cherrypicking guys with no power, “Mexican style”, or some Steve Rolls, Dominic Wade, or some dude coming up from 2 weight classes down like Kell Brook.
          lol woah man you kind of took that hard or something...kind of going all over the place now.

          My point was to say that a lot of people, and a lot of them non-GGG fans, and some of them peers of GGG, were really giving GGG a lot of props when he was in his prime...the comments by Froch and BJS indicate that.

          Below is an article from Froch btw before GGG-Canelo 1...picked Canelo to win, which we know didn't really happen...but he also said 'no one has really given GGG the credit or respect he deserves', among other flattering things about GGG, so that is pretty high praise I think...also mentioned that team GGG did contact him about a fight but for him timing was all wrong.

          Let's deal with facts on here not emotion man.

          https://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...nnady-golovkin

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          • #65
            Originally posted by rob g View Post
            I don’t think Golovkin or Wilder were hype jobs. Getting a medal in the olympics, becoming world champion, Making title defenses? I don’t think anyone who accomplishes that is a hype job. Hype job is really a term I don’t like to use. I guess if I had to dig really deep for a hype job I’d maybe say someone like Gerry Cooney. Beat a few guys who were past their prime and lost every time he stepped up. Still a big fan of Cooney though.

            Maybe overhyped? Someone like Adrien Broner who has a larger fan base than normal because of out of the ring antics? I guess it’s subjective. Worldstarhiphop made Broner famous
            Good post man...well said

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            • #66
              Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
              Gonzalez gets hit way too much. His defense is his face, which is why his prime didn’t last long. Longevity is part of being an ATG.

              ATG boxers wouldn’t be ATGs if they were only good for 3-4 years. Show the fans at LEAST a decade of your excellence.

              This dude got the top spot in the P4P list, placed there by fans and writers wanting to look like they know more boxing than anyone else. And this dude proves his worth by fighting a dude who was 29-29.

              I do not remember in my entire time as a boxing fan from the mid 1990s to present, as a baby boy to a 31 year old, seeing a worse opponent chosen by a top 10 P4P fighter, let alone a #1 P4P fighter. And his fight immediately before and after that weren’t all that either.

              Do you imagine the backlash Mayweather or Pacquiao would have gotten from everyone if they had chosen to fight some dude who was 29-29 when they were considered the best?

              The best thing that happened in boxing in the 2010s decade was Wanglek or whatever his name is, destroying the little hypejob like he did. That was so gratifying to watch. It was up there with Maidana humiliating Broner, and JMM finally getting his win vs Pacquiao.
              This is just the casual opinion. His defense has never been bad. I’ve watched the majority or all(everything that I could find) of Duran’s career, Leonard’s, Hearns, Pacquiao, Mayweather’s, Roy Jones, Salvador Sanchez, and Gonzalez, a long with other’s I can’t remember. You lot talk like Gonzalez is Brandon Rios or Margarito. His defense, is top tier. He got ko’d because he’s an aggresive fighter and everyone loses, many by ko, ATG or not.

              And I didn’t say he’s an ATG, I said Gonzalez has ATG level skills, albeit one-dimensional(never seen him fighting consistently backing up). The reason’s he wouldn’t be an ATG is a lacking resume, although very underrated and very good. But same reason a lot of highly skilled fighter’s don’t go on to be All time Greats. Discipline, consistency, manufacturing (knowing when to fight certain guys). Skillwise he is one of the greatest fighters. And he was pfp #1 because boxing was in a lull and there was literally no one better at the time. Gonzalez fought a guy 29-29 when he was pfp #1? I don’t think so..or don’t remember that.

              You seem a bit emotional, lets relax a bit. Didn’t know you harbored so much hate for the guy.
              Last edited by SplitSecond; 02-28-2020, 03:39 PM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Boxing_1013 View Post
                lol woah man you kind of took that hard or something...kind of going all over the place now.

                My point was to say that a lot of people, and a lot of them non-GGG fans, and some of them peers of GGG, were really giving GGG a lot of props when he was in his prime...the comments by Froch and BJS indicate that.

                Below is an article from Froch btw before GGG-Canelo 1...picked Canelo to win, which we know didn't really happen...but he also said 'no one has really given GGG the credit or respect he deserves', among other flattering things about GGG, so that is pretty high praise I think...also mentioned that team GGG did contact him about a fight but for him timing was all wrong.

                Let's deal with facts on here not emotion man.

                https://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...nnady-golovkin
                Freddie Roach also said Golovkin had the best footwork he had ever seen, all time. I’d agree with him, in terms of technical, purposeful footwork, especially coming forward, Golovkin’s footwork is the best I’ve seen.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
                  Freddie Roach also said Golovkin had the best footwork he had ever seen, all time. I’d agree with him, in terms of technical, purposeful footwork, especially coming forward, Golovkin’s footwork is the best I’ve seen.
                  Exactly...he has a lot of exceptional parts to his game...should get much more praise really...definitely not a 'hype job' by any means imho

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
                    This is just the casual opinion. His defense has never been bad. I’ve watched the majority or all(everything that I could find) of Duran’s career, Leonard’s, Hearns, Pacquiao, Mayweather’s, Roy Jones, Salvador Sanchez, and Gonzalez, a long with other’s I can’t remember. You lot talk like Gonzalez is Brandon Rios or Margarito. His defense, is top tier. He got ko’d because he’s an aggresive fighter and everyone loses, many by ko, ATG or not.

                    And I didn’t say he’s an ATG, I said Gonzalez has ATG level skills, albeit one-dimensional(never seen him fighting consistently backing up). The reason’s he wouldn’t be an ATG is a lacking resume, although very underrated and very good. But same reason a lot of highly skilled fighter’s don’t go on to be All time Greats. Discipline, consistency, manufacturing (knowing when to fight certain guys). Skillwise he is one of the greatest fighters. And he was pfp #1 because boxing was in a lull and there was literally no one better at the time. Gonzalez fought a guy 29-29 when he was pfp #1? I don’t think so..or don’t remember that.

                    You seem a bit emotional, lets relax a bit. Didn’t know you harbored so much hate for the guy.
                    It’s not a casual opinion because casuals don’t know who the f/ck Roman Gonzalez is dude lol. Wtf. Thus guy literally came out of nowhere, placed there, and fell off with the quickness. Every fight I saw of his he pretty much trucked through punches and used his face as a guard and his punching power to dispatch of opponents. I understand this is what a lot of people love to see, back and forth action ending in a KO, and i’m not butt hurt over anyone preferring some other style of boxing different than what I like. But I just don’t think this guy ever deserved to be top 5 P4P, let alone #1. A true hypejob who again, is praised by fans and writers wanting to look like they know more boxing than everyone else and since they “know” about Gonzalez they can call other boxing fans “casuals”.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
                      Freddie Roach also said Golovkin had the best footwork he had ever seen, all time. I’d agree with him, in terms of technical, purposeful footwork, especially coming forward, Golovkin’s footwork is the best I’ve seen.
                      Roach also denied Bernard Hopkins his service for Kelly Pavlik and instead told him to retire.

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