Comments Thread For: Roy Jones: Fury is Not All-Time Great, Wilder's Record is Lacking

[Tecnoworld]

Fury's worst enemy is himself. If he can beat that, hr can beat anyone.

As a boxer, he's the only huge fighter able to:
- move the way he moves
- technically fight at very high level
- change style according to the opponent, in a lot of totally different ways

I still think that no fighter could beat the Fury that won vs Wilder. I really like Lennox, Louis, Ali. But the older ones are too small. Lennox is the only one that could stand a chance, but he was in serious trouble vs Vitali and got his chin spoiled several times.

Vitali in his prime would probably be the thoughest for for Fury. That would be an incredible match.

[Oshio]

Roy just said the obvious

[guyver8]

He hasn't done shit outside of Klitschko except for defeating a man with a padded resume of cab drivers according to them.

That's the Wilder hater's narrative. That he has never beaten nobody. Now since Fury won they want to be hypocritical by exalting Deontay Wilder into the Heavens in order to over magnify Tyson's victory over him.

Thats not the "Wilder hater" narrative, thats the truth. Wilder ain't beat no one of any real credibility in 44 fights. Why do you have to be a hater to state facts? Its the Wilder fanboys who are hypocritical, if they do not believe Fury is an ATG, based on beating the greatest HW of all time, Deontay Wilder.

The facts are. both their resumes are light. Actually, Wilders is damn near non-existent. At least Fury also has Wlad on his resume.

[guyver8]

Fury's worst enemy is himself. If he can beat that, hr can beat anyone.

As a boxer, he's the only huge fighter able to:
- move the way he moves
- technically fight at very high level
- change style according to the opponent, in a lot of totally different ways

I still think that no fighter could beat the Fury that won vs Wilder. I really like Lennox, Louis, Ali. But the older ones are too small. Lennox is the only one that could stand a chance, but he was in serious trouble vs Vitali and got his chin spoiled several times.

Vitali in his prime would probably be the thoughest for for Fury. That would be an incredible match.

An old, washed up, out of shape Lewis was in trouble vs Vitali, who he clearly underrated at the time. PRIME Lewis would give Fury all kinds of problems with his technical ability, plus power.

[hugh grant]

Oh behave yoiurself RJJ. Fury beat great champs and the hardest punchers of all time in their backyards after abusing himself for 3 years to give them a chance and they still couldn't beat Fury.
Fury is ATG. He has ATG skills and IQ and knows what hes doing in that ring. ATGs are not just about long campaigns as champ defending belt. There is a bigger picture. There are other routes.

[Tecnoworld]

An old, washed up, out of shape Lewis was in trouble vs Vitali, who he clearly underrated at the time. PRIME Lewis would give Fury all kinds of problems with his technical ability, plus power.

Lewis was not that old, by then, even if he retired afterwards. Anyway the fact itself we are talking of Lewis means that Fury belongs to the highest peak of hw boxing. He can be #1, #2, #3 or #4, but he surely is there.

[Toffee]

Oh behave yoiurself RJJ. Fury beat great champs and the hardest punchers of all time in their backyards after abusing himself for 3 years to give them a chance and they still couldn't beat Fury.
Fury is ATG. He has ATG skills and IQ and knows what hes doing in that ring. ATGs are not just about long campaigns as champ defending belt. There is a bigger picture. There are other routes.

What are the other routes? If there are other routes then they won't include winning only two mega fights.

He has to defend. He fell apart when he won the belts last time, and let's not forget he got banned.

Undoubted ATG quality, but still needs to defend the belts.

[TMLT87]

He isnt an ATG yet but hes on the cusp, beating Joshua and unifying again would get him there.

[champion4ever]

Thats not the "Wilder hater" narrative, thats the truth. Wilder ain't beat no one of any real credibility in 44 fights. Why do you have to be a hater to state facts? Its the Wilder fanboys who are hypocritical, if they do not believe Fury is an ATG, based on beating the greatest HW of all time, Deontay Wilder.

The facts are. both their resumes are light. Actually, Wilders is damn near non-existent. At least Fury also has Wlad on his resume.

Then y'all need to stop this P4P nonsense and foolish talk about Tyson Fury. Fury's victory over a limited, overachieving and lack of fundamental boxing skills fighter like the "Bronze Bomber" Deontay Wilder does not make him P4P worthy. It's because in you Wilder haters mind, Wilder was never shit anyway, couldn't box and was a bum with a thin resume fighting scrubs.

[guyver8]

Then y'all need to stop this P4P nonsense and foolish talk about Tyson Fury. Fury's victory over a limited, overachieving and lack of fundamental boxing skills fighter like the "Bronze Bomber" Deontay Wilder does not make him P4P worthy. It's because in you Wilder haters mind, Wilder was never shit anyway, couldn't box and was a bum with a thin resume fighting scrubs.

Im not calling him an ATG yet. He beat Wlad, but didnt give him the rematch and then banned for 2 years for taking steroids. The end of the ban miraculously coincided with his recovery from drug abuse and mental heath problems... Be like Ruiz beating Joshua, then not giving the rematch. Gotta run that back, make sure it wasn't a fluke. Still Wlad is a good win.

Then he beats a massively overrated Wilder. who is still good, but has limited boxing fundementals and a thin resume.

Fury has to do more. Can't pad his resume with Wallins and Seferi's when theres decent level contenders waiting to take his 0.