Comments Thread For: Roy Jones: Fury is Not All-Time Great, Wilder's Record is Lacking

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  • lion33lit
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    #21
    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
    I wouldn't be so sure about that, he'd be hard to catch and would land at will.
    He couldnt get on the inside of Tarver in any meaningful way, so he sure wouldnt be able to get in on a long lanky Fury. And if "push" came to "shove" (for Fury) with Roy doing a little better than expected? Fury would "lean" on him executing several "headlocks" and "behind the head" punches.....all in order to bring to a "crawl" the fleet footed Roy

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    • them_apples
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      #22
      I agree 100 p

      Fury is a hall of famer, but we can't throw all time great at him yet.

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      • Monty Fisto
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        #23
        Don't disagree with anything RJJ says here. One thing I would say is that though Wilder's resume is weak, his power is real. Breazeale is not much of a boxer, but he is a big and durable lump and the way Wilder dispatched him was kind of frightening. So although Fury is a much better boxer than Wilder, there was (and is) always that danger of just getting sparked with a single shot. I think that stands even if the third fight happens. From what we've seen, the power does go if he's exhausted, but that right will remain a danger for anyone, even Fury.

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        • Dasmius Shinobi
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          #24
          Roy Jones Jr. have spoken.

          Tyson Fury need to fight Anthony Joshua and defeat him, then go to the remains top 5 and defeat them, then finally, Tyson Fury can do a farewell final fight with Dereck Chisora part III for old time sake and retire happily.

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          • thereeldeel
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            #25
            Fury still needs to beat AJ, after that he becomes a total legend.
            Wins over Klitschko, Wilder and AJ means he beat the best big men of his era, you can 't do any better than that.
            I await the comments from Fury haters that all those guys are not that good, past their prime, limited, yap yap.

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            • thereeldeel
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              #26
              You could argue that Lennox Lewis is not an ATG cause he got knocked cold twice by average heavyweights, and he only beat 2 good fighters who were way past their prime (Holyfield and Tyson).
              Yes he also beat Vitali Klitschko but lets not forget that he was behind on all scorecards when the fight was stopped on cuts.

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              • TexasCowBoy
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                #27
                I have Klitschko as the Best Heavyweight Of All Time....held The Heavyweight Division In a stranglehold for a decade....I was very upset when Fury defeated Klitschko.....I was happy for Boxing when Fury destroyed deontayduckus wilderquackus.....deontayduckus almost became a body if that white towel hadn't stop the fight

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                • Gate keeper
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                  #28
                  I agree you can't say Fury is an ATG solely based on Wilder and an almost over the hill Klitschko. But Fury is the only HW ever to win all major titles including lineal and ring at one point in his career in the HW division. That has to count for something in the record books. If nothing else, the benefit of the doubt that given the chance, he could easily be an ATG.
                  Last edited by Gate keeper; 02-26-2020, 12:04 PM.

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                  • archiemoore1
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                    #29
                    Wilder paws with his left, measures with it, slaps your hand down or tries to blind you with it, so he can drop his bomb on you, but he doesn't use it as a primary weapon. He doesn't pump the jab to really try to touch u with it. He uses it so sparingly because his brain is totally wrapped around hitting you with his right hand. Instead of following his opponent with his mind set on one right hand, he should be always looking to land the jab 1st and foremost. But he isn't wired to think much. Baaahmb squuaad

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                    • pittapatta66
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                      #30
                      i disagree, he is atg anyway just for beating an atg hw wlad klitschko and ending his 10 year undefeated streak/prime run. deontay was icing on the cake and aj would seal the deal. he whooped deontay, no-one has done that and it shows there are levels to this.

                      are we forgetting the guy came back from retirement ala ali, ward etc. but unlike them he was an alcoholic drug addict that weighed over 400lbs and was suicidal. to come back from that and still be at the level he is at is unprecedented. are we already rewriting history and forgetting that EVERYONE had written tyson fury off and called him a madman when he said he'd make a comeback let alone one this successsful? because I dont forget so easily. furys own family didnt believe hed ever make it back.

                      fury isnt just atg he is a legend of the sport imo, he has transcended the greatness of what happens inside the ring

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