Historian Monte Cox: Floyd no top 10 welter. No ATG.

[Larry the boss]

what point is that? What unification did cox miss? Note that the article is from 2012.

why post an out of date article?

[The Big Dunn]

Either he fought 'em when it meant something, or he didn't. In this guys opinion be didn't and he's not by himself in that thinking.

Only Floyd fanboys and ppl he pays off is going to take into account all the excuses er i mean "facts", lol, for why fights got made so late or not at all. It is what it is.

Floyd took a two year vacation when all those guys was ready and calling him out. It's not like this guy or anybody who agrees with his statements is fabricating anything.

There are people that think the earth is flat. They are not alone in that thinking. It doesn't mean that opinion is factual.

Only the people without a bias toward Floyd will assess things as they happened. For example, Cox held "not fighting guys" against Floyd but didn't mention anything about SRR not fighting Burley.

Floyd taking off for 2 years didn't affect the Shane fight or the Manny fight from happening, their decisions not to fight him did. You called for the Shane fight next and he fought him the next cinco de mayo weekend after you asked for it so how you could say he didn't fight shane when he should is illogical.

When forced into a corner you have repeatedly posted you are ok with Manny turning down the fights for PED testing and the $40 mil, no ppv. This indicates you know the truth, but only admit it when forced to.

I have no problem with any opinion so long as it is rooted in facts. His opinion isn't and a number of posters are pointing out the inaccuracies in his argument. Too bad you aren't man enough to do same.

[Boxing Goat]

http://coxscorner.tripod.com/divisional_ratings.html

Total nonsense, in my opinion. Floyd had an amazing career and his resume is extremely good and fits well with any other ATG fighter on that list when you break it down.

[Boxing_1013]

I'm not a Manny or Floyd guy really...but to me it is pretty clear that Floyd could get any fight he wanted over the last half or so of his career...fighting him was the big money fight...so seems pretty clear to me why Pac-Floyd was delayed...I think Floyd beat him 8-4 though.

[djtmal]

There are people that think the earth is flat. They are not alone in that thinking. It doesn't mean that opinion is factual.

Only the people without a bias toward Floyd will assess things as they happened. For example, Cox held "not fighting guys" against Floyd but didn't mention anything about SRR not fighting Burley.

Floyd taking off for 2 years didn't affect the Shane fight or the Manny fight from happening, their decisions not to fight him did. You called for the Shane fight next and he fought him the next cinco de mayo weekend after you asked for it so how you could say he didn't fight shane when he should is illogical.

When forced into a corner you have repeatedly posted you are ok with Manny turning down the fights for PED testing and the $40 mil, no ppv. This indicates you know the truth, but only admit it when forced to.

I have no problem with any opinion so long as it is rooted in facts. His opinion isn't and a number of posters are pointing out the inaccuracies in his argument. Too bad you aren't man enough to do same.

Floyd taking the two years off and ducking the division you really don't have an excuse for, and only Floyd Boys care about whose fault it was in the fault department, as this historian Monty Cox clearly shows you, it's Floyd career, and ultimately Floyd's responsibility especially since he fought at his own timetable.

You want to cry and say it's everybody else's fault cool but you see how many ww's this historian has in front of your boy.

[-Kev-]

Monte Cox is one of the most respected historians out there.

He just fabricated some things about what happened in recent history. He’s a liar and is trying to change what happened. If he’s respected, maybe he’s respected by like minded people: liars and trolls.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd taking the two years off and ducking the division you really don't have an excuse for, and only Floyd Boys care about whose fault it was in the fault department, as this historian Monty Cox clearly shows you, it's Floyd career, and ultimately Floyd's responsibility especially since he fought at his own timetable.

You want to cry and say it's everybody else's fault cool but you see how many ww's this historian has in front of your boy.

Floyd took time off because his hands were hurt according to him. Yet you call it "ducking the division". OK. He came back after 21 months off and beat the #2 p4p boxer in the world 12-0. His next fight he fought Shane in May 2010 ( as you requested in your thread.)

Notice how the decent posters in this thread, whether they like or hate Floyd, have questioned the accuracy of the statements Cox makes because we know they aren't true. Others have pointed out this is an old article that looks very bad with time. Again, you slurp it because he said something negative about Floyd.

If you don't think Floyd is a great fighter, fine. I think that makes you an idiot (as some others posters have posted in this thread) but if your opinion is supported by truth and facts, so be it.

Instead we get what we usually get-people like you that don't like Floyd for whatever reason (black, DV cases, greatest of his generation, rich, arrogant, beat their favorite, etc.) and let that dislike drive you to lie and skew facts.

Hopefully Cox updates his article this year so we can see what he feels now that Floyd's career is over.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd taking the two years off and ducking the division you really don't have an excuse for, and only Floyd Boys care about whose fault it was in the fault department, as this historian Monty Cox clearly shows you, it's Floyd career, and ultimately Floyd's responsibility especially since he fought at his own timetable.

You want to cry and say it's everybody else's fault cool but you see how many ww's this historian has in front of your boy.

He just fabricated some things about what happened in recent history. He’s a liar and is trying to change what happened. If he’s respected, maybe he’s respected by like minded people: liars and trolls.

I direct you to this post from Kev in response to any further post you make in this thread djtmal.

[GorillaDog]

Floyd never fought anybody at welter weight other than Judah. How anybody can say he's an ATG welter weight is just silly.

[KillaMane26]

Yall pathetic using the same old article we been seen before which doesnt account for the last 10 fights of his career.

Just pathetic.