Historian Monte Cox: Floyd no top 10 welter. No ATG.

[BattlingNelson]

Welterweight Ratings:

1 Ray Robinson
2 Ray Leonard
3 Mickey Walker
4 Thomas Hearns
5 Joe Walcott
6 Jose Napoles
7 Kid Gavilan
8 Emile Griffith
9 Ted “Kid” Lewis
10 Luis Rodriguez

Note: Floyd Mayweather’s career does not give him a top 10 spot. Luis Rodriguez, for example, had a better career than Floyd beating Emile Griffith, Benny Paret, Hurricane Carter, Curtis Cokes, Georgie Benton and Bennie Briscoe. I cannot in all honesty put Mayweather in the top 10 welterweights based on a career of hand picked opponents and having never unified a major title. Floyd avoided fights with Mosley, Margarito and Pacquiao when they meant something. He waited for these opponents to slow down and fade before considering facing them. Mayweather just does not have the competition to be considered a true all time great. I am not convinced that Floyd would beat any of the top 10 all time welterweights.

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[Jim Tom]

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Whoever this ****** is no one cares about what he has to say. The moment he said Floyd avoided Mosley and Pacquiao then you know he ain’t no historian.

[GGG Gloveking]

There's a thread about lowest boxing IQs.

I think we have a winner

[BattlingNelson]

Whoever this ****** is no one cares about what he has to say. The moment he said Floyd avoided Mosley and Pacquiao then you know he ain’t no historian.

Monte Cox is one of the most respected historians out there.

[Death_Adder]

Fraud avoided prime Pac and a slew of other top welters.

Fraud really earned his name FRAUD. TBE?, yeah he was at cherry picking and avoiding challenges.

His career was a sham and should have at least 4 losses on his record. Plus he sucks cock on the side.

[blitted_master]

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I agree 100%. He was also gifted decisions against Castillo, who thoroughly outboxed him, and Maidana, who bullied little Floyd all over the ring.

He's definitely not TBE, more like MCE - Most Cautious Ever

[BigStomps]

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This thread is bullshet and biased as fucc! Of course Floyd is a top ten welterweight!
I remember Shane Moseley claiming his tooth was hurting when Floyd wanted to fight him way before they actually did fight.
And i remember Manny rejecting random drug tests cause he was supposedly afraid of needles...
So WTF is this clown writer talking about Floyd refusing to fight Shane and Manny when they " meant something "???
I'm not even a Floyd fan but i give props where props is due!

[BigStomps]

Monte Cox is one of the most respected historians out there.

Then suck his balls if you think that highly of him but the rest of us know he don't know shet about boxing!

[The Big Dunn]

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I’m fine if this is how he sees things but his analysis is faulty and not factual.

Manny and Shane waited to fight Floyd, not the other way round. He also unified the division when he defeated Manny.

[BattlingNelson]

This thread is bullshet and biased as fucc! Of course Floyd is a top ten welterweight!
I remember Shane Moseley claiming his tooth was hurting when Floyd wanted to fight him way before they actually did fight.
And i remember Manny rejecting random drug tests cause he was supposedly afraid of needles...
So WTF is this clown writer talking about Floyd refusing to fight Shane and Manny when they " meant something "???
I'm not even a Floyd fan but i give props where props is due!

I’m fine if this is how he sees things but his analysis is faulty and not factual.

Manny and Shane waited to fight Floyd, not the other way round. He also unified the division when he defeated Manny.

I reckon Cox's' point is that Floyd didn't fight them when it would have meant something.

To me it's the same for Lennox Lewis who happens to have a great record on paper, but the names on his resume doesn't represent the value of those wins when you are not looking at context. Hence why a lot of people, imo, overrates Lewis massively.