Comments Thread For: Andy Ruiz's Trainer Voices Frustration Over Joshua Venue Reveal

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BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

If the Champion the loses that fight he gets to have a final rematch in which his hands are covered in glue and glass and the opponent can neither hit him below nor ABOVE THE WAIST

His Mother will be the Ref and Hearn, Khan's ex girl and AJ himself gets to judge the fight

OH AND AJ GETS 97.6% of the PROFITS plus a guaranteed 37 NO MATTER IF HE KEEPS GETTING BEAT TO SLEEP LIKE HE DID IN THE RUIZ FIGHT!!!

AJ has a rematch clause like any other fighter. There is no difference. Although your delusion and exaggeration would claim otherwise.

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andy will fake an injury and try to get out of the contract, hearn promoted the fight today with none of the fighters there, that is weird and fishy....

We know why the coward and brat Andy wasn't there. But what's fishy about AJ not being there?

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the fight will happen where ever hearn wants it, aj stated he wanted it to be in the US, that's out of his own mouth sir.

But AJ's team told him it wouldn't be to his advantage to have it again in the US and give Ruiz home advantage. So he changed his mind once he saw sense. Which he's allowed to do.

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Ruiz in any state with a huge Mexican population could fill a stadium here in the States.

They are obviously chasing money contemplating Saudi Arabia so Ruiz should get more since the location isn’t a place agreed upon.

Ruiz should is easily a bigger draw in the US than Joshua, the fight should be in the States since the whole point was the build up Joshua’s rep here stateside.

All BS as expected. Money talks and Joshua was exposed. Will get beat in the rematch.

Ruiz is only known through AJ. Without AJ, Ruiz was selling less than 2,000 tickets and having no one care about him on TV. In fact, if it weren't for AJ, Wilder would still be making a pittance fighting bums in front of the biggest dribblers in the world. Showtime would not lose millions on the bum if they didn't feel the need to. AJ makes your bum fighters. AJ is the only thing interesting about them.

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I think someone actually knows what they are talking about...praise da lawd!

I am no legal beagle but it seems to me that a rematch clause, in this case, has many features in common with an option.

Specifically, a formal option has a certain value going in, and that value often changes. Sometimes when the value changes a lot, it is better to just pay the option out and not exerscize it.

Ruiz future performance in this contract is leveraged against his new value since winning. So Hearn has to address that future value. And to me that is the central issue, not that Ruiz can be held to performance.

If Hearn does not address that value then it will be worse for Joshua. It is almost like this contract is voidable due to Ruiz's win...Though I known this is not technically correct.

You think Fanofreason knows what he's talking about? Oh f3cking deary me.

The contract is voidable due to Ruiz winning?? No wonder you think one of the biggest morons on the forum is talking sense. Haha. Makes perfect sense.

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Tyson Fury kind of proves the win is worth more than a rematch clause.

Well if Wilder and Haymon didn't rip Fury off, they would have been able by contract to enforce the rematch. But with it coming out as a draw, Fury was able to do what he wanted. He did. He signed a big money agreement with ESPN while Wilder gets less than half of that. Haha.

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That is the issue! A contract can even be declared "voidable" if specific performance is grossly uncompensated. If you make cookies and I sell them for ten times the amount I give you, and a clause states that you create a few more batches, and you find that the amount your paid compared to what you make is not rational then a court might consider that when compensating either party when you break the contract.

The point is that it is rational to expect that Hearns renegotiate the contract. It simply is the case that it might be better for Ruiz to break the contract under these conditions, like the cookie example.

People keep talking about the rematch clause in the contract as though it is set in stone...it has already been renegotiated considerably. Again, this will be considered as well.

It was renegotiated considerably? When did this happen? What was changed?

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Well if Wilder and Haymon didn't rip Fury off, they would have been able by contract to enforce the rematch. But with it coming out as a draw, Fury was able to do what he wanted. He did. He signed a big money agreement with ESPN while Wilder gets less than half of that. Haha.

Well, I was thinking of the Wlad rematch and how that didn't happen and how Tyson hasn't gotten his belts back since, but, he's still a high profile HW with strong bargaining position.

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Eddie has the Saudi's agreement and has negotiated for their agreement for non-revealing of AJ's PED post testing! Bottom line for taking this fight to Saudi desert..

That would only make sense if the Saudi's were doing the drug testing you moron. Don't try and act smart because you'll fail. That's what happens with ****** people like yourself.

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Well, I was thinking of the Wlad rematch and how that didn't happen and how Tyson hasn't gotten his belts back since, but, he's still a high profile HW with strong bargaining position.

Tyson would have little to no bargaining power against Joshua without a title its why when he demanded 60% he got laughed away by Hearn.


Fury may have bargaining power but hes built up a rep and has a loud mouth it took him years to get to where he is now and doing it against your favorite fighter Wilder isn't exactly hard knowing he won that fight on top of Wilder needing him to create a ppv .