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FACT: there used to be 8 divisions... now there are 17 divisions
FACT: there used to be 8 world champions, now there are more than 100
FACT: the two facts above PROVE that the standards within boxing have dropped..... someone was ALWAYS going to tip-toe through the tulips, fighting mid-level guys who were not the best..... to pick up as much alphabet-rubbish as they could..... and that person happened to be Manny Pacquiao LMAO
FACT: forget the ABC rubbish, there is only ONE criteria for greatness
WHO did you beat..... with consideration given to when/how
apply that logic to EVERY fighter, and it then becomes possible to compare across era's..... it then becomes possible to compare fighters today, with fighters of the past who did not compete in a an era with 17 divisions and 100+ world titles.....
FACT: Armstrong would have truckloads of that junk, had there been 17 divisions and 100+ "titles" back in his era
if you apply the logic above..... which is the SAME logic that historians use, so you might as well try..... collecting worthless ABC junk off guys who would have lost to a number of fighters in that same division, will be seen for what they are..... mid-level wins, that nobody should write home about
I say again.....
Q. WHO did you beat..... with consideration given to when/how?
A. it was just Thurman..... get a grip son
FACT: you casual-fan clowns are going FULL ret4rdComment
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thurman was a cherry pick. the guy was coming off 2 years of inactivity and almost got stopped by josesito lopez lol. that was not the same thurman we saw vs porter or danny. pacroid simply caught him at his lowest point and won by the skin of his teeth.
overrated win.
now if pacroid beats the porter/spence winner we can talkComment
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Head to Head and common opponents...
Bread acting like Floyd and manny are the same size...
If Floyd main rival is a career featherweight, then it tells à lot about his level of oppo...Comment
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Mike, check the post above..... #63
ONE criteria, for ALL..... that way we can compare across era's
WHO did you beat..... with consideration given to when/how
nothing else matters..... not ABC junk, not ESPY awards, just names
Canelo's wins over Liam Smith and Rocky Fielding were rubbished, because those guys are clearly NOT the best in their respective divisions..... and yet, neither is Thurman..... not only that, he does not look like the same (largely-unproven) fighter that he was before getting injured/inactivity
that was a good win..... Pac's age made that a very good win
but how the fcuk can that possibly compare with Pacquiao/Mayweathers GREAT wins?..... answer, it doesn't..... it is just a feather in Pac's cap
Pac is a great fighter, no question..... but that was not a great win..... which is exactly why bread said that Floyd is clearly ahead of Manny, and Pac would need to beat Spence or Crawford to start closing that distance
anything other than a truly great win, should not even be discussed in that context..... Thurman was a good/very good win
this is the usual insanity that we have come to expect when discussing Mayweather or Pacquiao
the reason why I am widely regarded as a cvnt, is because I ALWAYS put boxing first..... ahead of Mayflower, the midget, clenelo, huggy-Ward, pee-pee mouth..... ALL of whom I love to watch and support
those guys will all be gone soon, but I will still be here supporting boxing..... so I cannot stand to see pacfans, or any fans..... leaving behind a mess, when Pac retires and they find other interests that justify their timeComment
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Outclass? Floyd fights by excessive holding and running. Even sucker punching. No class.Comment
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