Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Manny Pacquiao Mania, Mayweather, More

[aboutfkntime]

Manny is a top 10 atg easy for me.

what, just above Thurman and Broner..... ?

what about when you include some of the other actual great fighters throughout history?

how can anyone take you seriously..... now that you admit you cannot think of 10 fighters who are greater than Pacquiao?

[Mike D]

I agree with bread that Mayweather is better all time than Pacquiao, but he still ranks those guys too high

the positives in Pac's career, rate really highly..... not too far behind Mayweather..... but the negatives also rate highly..... losing, getting knocked out, the PED debacle, manny-weight.....

both are great, Mayweather is greater

it is insane that knowledgeable people get called a hater for pointing that out

Great post. I agree. And I'm a Pacquiao fan btw.

[aboutfkntime]

FACT: there used to be 8 divisions... now there are 17 divisions

FACT: there used to be 8 world champions, now there are more than 100

FACT: the two facts above PROVE that the standards within boxing have dropped..... someone was ALWAYS going to tip-toe through the tulips, fighting mid-level guys who were not the best..... to pick up as much alphabet-rubbish as they could..... and that person happened to be Manny Pacquiao LMAO

FACT: forget the ABC rubbish, there is only ONE criteria for greatness

WHO did you beat..... with consideration given to when/how

apply that logic to EVERY fighter, and it then becomes possible to compare across era's..... it then becomes possible to compare fighters today, with fighters of the past who did not compete in a an era with 17 divisions and 100+ world titles.....

FACT: Armstrong would have truckloads of that junk, had there been 17 divisions and 100+ "titles" back in his era

if you apply the logic above..... which is the SAME logic that historians use, so you might as well try..... collecting worthless ABC junk off guys who would have lost to a number of fighters in that same division, will be seen for what they are..... mid-level wins, that nobody should write home about

I say again.....

Q. WHO did you beat..... with consideration given to when/how?

A. it was just Thurman..... get a grip son

FACT: you casual-fan clowns are going FULL ret4rd

[blue_dolphin]

thurman was a cherry pick. the guy was coming off 2 years of inactivity and almost got stopped by josesito lopez lol. that was not the same thurman we saw vs porter or danny. pacroid simply caught him at his lowest point and won by the skin of his teeth.

overrated win.

now if pacroid beats the porter/spence winner we can talk

[BillyBoxing]

Head to Head and common opponents...

Bread acting like Floyd and manny are the same size...

If Floyd main rival is a career featherweight, then it tells à lot about his level of oppo...

[landotter]

Damn this thread is like a Pacquiao Haters Ball Convention. So many colorfully dressed haters!

[aboutfkntime]

Great post. I agree. And I'm a Pacquiao fan btw.

Mike, check the post above..... #63

ONE criteria, for ALL..... that way we can compare across era's

WHO did you beat..... with consideration given to when/how

nothing else matters..... not ABC junk, not ESPY awards, just names

Canelo's wins over Liam Smith and Rocky Fielding were rubbished, because those guys are clearly NOT the best in their respective divisions..... and yet, neither is Thurman..... not only that, he does not look like the same (largely-unproven) fighter that he was before getting injured/inactivity

that was a good win..... Pac's age made that a very good win

but how the fcuk can that possibly compare with Pacquiao/Mayweathers GREAT wins?..... answer, it doesn't..... it is just a feather in Pac's cap

Pac is a great fighter, no question..... but that was not a great win..... which is exactly why bread said that Floyd is clearly ahead of Manny, and Pac would need to beat Spence or Crawford to start closing that distance

anything other than a truly great win, should not even be discussed in that context..... Thurman was a good/very good win

this is the usual insanity that we have come to expect when discussing Mayweather or Pacquiao

the reason why I am widely regarded as a cvnt, is because I ALWAYS put boxing first..... ahead of Mayflower, the midget, clenelo, huggy-Ward, pee-pee mouth..... ALL of whom I love to watch and support

those guys will all be gone soon, but I will still be here supporting boxing..... so I cannot stand to see pacfans, or any fans..... leaving behind a mess, when Pac retires and they find other interests that justify their time

[sargo]

Outclass? Floyd fights by excessive holding and running. Even sucker punching. No class.

[BillyBoxing]

PAC has more CATCHWEIGHT setups then any fighter I've known. The advantages of draining the other fighter played major factor in some of his biggest wins. Am I clear on that?

Floyd used CW vs marquez and Canelo.

If we disqualify CW wins it doesn't help Floyd either tbh

[Jab jab boom]

Excuse #456834567

wait, is that the number of excuses pac fans have for his loss to mayweather??