Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Manny Pacquiao Mania, Mayweather, More

[BillyBoxing]

immediately after the second Marquez fight, Manny Steward stated that Pac should consider retiring..... he said that Manny looked shopworn and had been in too many wars.....

Manny then linked up with Alex Ariza

immediately following Pac's next fight against David Diaz, Steward was gushing with praise, saying that Manny was rejuvenated/revitalized, and looked like a different fighter

and NO, Steward was not throwing Manny under a bus, he was simply commenting on what he saw

what happened next..... ? here, let me remind you.....

Pac then skipped through THREE DIVISIONS in 9 months, gaining 12lbs of muscle..... increasing his speed/power and more than DOUBLING his punch output..... all while looking as fresh as a daisy..... wtf?

you know absolutely nothing about boxing if that does not seem su****ious to you

Pac turned from a shopworn fighter, into a 1200+ punch dynamo, who (coincidentally) refused to test..... then, Pac just as suddenly reverted back into a normal 400-500 punch fighter who looked tired at the end of a fight, and (coincidentally) he suddenly had no problem taking blood tests

just ignore all of those facts..... if you truly need to LMAO

I dunno if I'm ignoring facts, but your theory that Pac turned into a beast at 147 after the Marquez fight where he looked "shopworn" would be valid if he destroyed Marquez at 147, that's exactly the opposite that happened in the 4th Marquez fight....

So maybe Marquez was always a problem for Pac...

[BillyBoxing]

REAL boxing fans..... keep it real

immediately after the second Marquez fight, Manny Steward stated that Pac should consider retiring..... he said that Manny looked shopworn and had been in too many wars.....

Manny then linked up with Alex Ariza

immediately following Pac's next fight against David Diaz, Steward was gushing with praise, saying that Manny was rejuvenated/revitalized, and looked like a different fighter

and NO, Steward was not throwing Manny under a bus, he was simply commenting on what he saw

what happened next..... ? here, let me remind you.....

Pac then skipped through THREE DIVISIONS in 9 months, gaining 12lbs of muscle..... increasing his speed/power and more than DOUBLING his punch output..... all while looking as fresh as a daisy..... wtf?

you know absolutely nothing about boxing if that does not seem su****ious to you

Pac turned from a shopworn fighter, into a 1200+ punch dynamo, who (coincidentally) refused to test..... then, Pac just as suddenly reverted back into a normal 400-500 punch fighter who looked tired at the end of a fight, and (coincidentally) he suddenly had no problem taking blood tests

LMAO

keep looking the other way if you NEED to, but REAL fans know whats up

no way would you fcukboys be giving anyone else a free pass

to prove what an ignorant piece-of-shlt you are..... your main excuse is "Pac never tested positive"..... and yet, you are well-aware that Manny REFUSED to be tested for years

you happily forget about that, because you do not care when it comes to Pac

look at the way you morons acted when Canelo tested positive..... despite the fact that 4x independent experts ALL insisted that the positive result was likely due to accidental contamination, despite the fact that Canelo willingly cleared himself with a hair follicle test, and despite the fact that Canelo put on a BETTER performance in his next fight when we know he was clean

you hung Canelo from a tree, based on very little proof..... and yet Pacquiao is MUCH more su****ious, because he exhibits the results of what you would expect from doping..... all while avoiding random blood tests

you are not a REAL boxing fan son

I am a Canelo fan..... but with Canelo, despite the fact that everything points to accidental contamination..... I am not 100% convinced, because I do not 100% know for sure..... which is MILES different than your childish blind-defence of Pacquiao

one of us is a real boxing fan..... and one of us is just a Pacquiao fan

So Pacquiao is a cheater, Canelo a victim...

About****intime the one and only DA REAL boxing fan ladies and gentlemen LMAO

[siablo14]

This happens a lot, but there seems to be differing sets of criteria for ATG being bandied about that is leading to disagreement. Some appear to be simply be using ‘compiled accomplishments’ which awards longevity; and thus moves a fighter like pacquiao up the rankings. Most though seem to be focusing on a hybrid of total accomplishments combined with peak accomplishments and ability. Giving more credit of greatness to how good a fighter was at his best. I prefer the latter, but it is somewhat of an apples to oranges thing going on

i prefer the same criteria that you do.

Hence i was shocked to see ESPN put Hopkins ahead of Roy Jones Jr.

[BillyBoxing]

REAL boxing fans..... keep it real

immediately after the second Marquez fight, Manny Steward stated that Pac should consider retiring..... he said that Manny looked shopworn and had been in too many wars.....

Manny then linked up with Alex Ariza

immediately following Pac's next fight against David Diaz, Steward was gushing with praise, saying that Manny was rejuvenated/revitalized, and looked like a different fighter

and NO, Steward was not throwing Manny under a bus, he was simply commenting on what he saw

what happened next..... ? here, let me remind you.....

Pac then skipped through THREE DIVISIONS in 9 months, gaining 12lbs of muscle..... increasing his speed/power and more than DOUBLING his punch output..... all while looking as fresh as a daisy..... wtf?

you know absolutely nothing about boxing if that does not seem su****ious to you

Pac turned from a shopworn fighter, into a 1200+ punch dynamo, who (coincidentally) refused to test..... then, Pac just as suddenly reverted back into a normal 400-500 punch fighter who looked tired at the end of a fight, and (coincidentally) he suddenly had no problem taking blood tests

LMAO

keep looking the other way if you NEED to, but REAL fans know whats up

no way would you fcukboys be giving anyone else a free pass

to prove what an ignorant piece-of-shlt you are..... your main excuse is "Pac never tested positive"..... and yet, you are well-aware that Manny REFUSED to be tested for years

you happily forget about that, because you do not care when it comes to Pac

look at the way you morons acted when Canelo tested positive..... despite the fact that 4x independent experts ALL insisted that the positive result was likely due to accidental contamination, despite the fact that Canelo willingly cleared himself with a hair follicle test, and despite the fact that Canelo put on a BETTER performance in his next fight when we know he was clean

you hung Canelo from a tree, based on very little proof..... and yet Pacquiao is MUCH more su****ious, because he exhibits the results of what you would expect from doping..... all while avoiding random blood tests

you are not a REAL boxing fan son

I am a Canelo fan..... but with Canelo, despite the fact that everything points to accidental contamination..... I am not 100% convinced, because I do not 100% know for sure..... which is MILES different than your childish blind-defence of Pacquiao

one of us is a real boxing fan..... and one of us is just a Pacquiao fan

anyway, good luck here

I'm putting you on ignore again, you're irrational and so a waste of time

[chirorickyp]

He outclassed Manny by shutting him down, when an aggressive high volume puncher is shutdown to his lowest output it says he couldnt do anything, couldnt get off, couldnt cut the ring, couldnt throw without fear of being countered = outclassed.

True again. Manny picked off many of Floyd's punches with his gloves. Floyd did little to raise an eyebrow offensively. Fight ******. Floyd should have opened up and tried to walk Manny down in the last 2 rounds like he did against the 0-0 MacGregor. We'd still be talking about those great rounds if he did.

[sargo]

Accusers are the users. Who actually got caught cheating using illegal IV.

[chirorickyp]

every time that something like this happens, I immediately remember why I hate Pacquiao fans

two-faced bltches with convenient double-standards

Add to the list Canelo fans and Floyd fans and GGG fans. Same Shut different pile

[Roadblock]

True again. Manny picked off many of Floyd's punches with his gloves. Floyd did little to raise an eyebrow offensively. Fight ******. Floyd should have opened up and tried to walk Manny down in the last 2 rounds like he did against the 0-0 MacGregor. We'd still be talking about those great rounds if he did.

I agree fight was a non event, that can happen when top liners meet they often null and void each other, sometimes fighters can be so good when they meet it becomes a chess match where nothing happens.

[sargo]

Well if one fighter chooses to hold and run, instead of exchange, no matter what the other does the action will be blunted.

Broner chose to run - less damage on himself and inflicted on pacquiao. Thurman chose to trade, more damage but also caused damage on Pacquiao.

[Spoon23]

I agree fight was a non event, that can happen when top liners meet they often null and void each other, sometimes fighters can be so good when they meet it becomes a chess match where nothing happens.

An offensive fight vs a defensive fighter might null and void each other yes, but if the defensive fighter chose to hug/clinch everytime an offensive fighter wants to go in. That's not boxing. That's foul. You are suppose to block or dodge the punches. That's the objectivity of boxing. Hit and not get hit not hug to not get hit.. What Floyd did was hug everytime Pac comes closer to him.. Or if he couldn't clinch ran for crying out loud. Firstly, that's ***** boxing and boring AF, secondly, intentional clinching is foul in boxing. You are suppose to BOX, use your hands to win.. Not clinch your way to a marathon huggathon event.

#ONLYINVEGAS


This was not Defense. This is called collusion with the ref for allowing Floyd to profusely foul Manny by clinching him everytime Manny gets near him.. This is intentional fouling and it's all documented from here 'till eternity. It wasn't defense they were scoring it was rampant lame fouling by Floyd.

You don't prevent an opponent from countering by hugging. That's just not boxing. too much fouling by Floyd and not a single point deduction from Bayless tsk tsk tsk... Stick and move NOT stick and hug Floyd. Don't change the game lol

#FAKEWIN




The boos in every Floyd Mayweather hug caught in this footage only shows how boxing fans feel in their frustration of what is an example of what not to do in a super fight of this magnitude.

@1:15 - "Keep running Floyd. Keep running. You can do it!"





Here's an education video about the Queensberry Rules of boxing.

What not to do in boxing:

Number 2 rule : NO wrestling or HUGGING allowed @ 0:39




The Right way. Dodge, bob weave and throw a 3 punch combo then clinch.



The wrong way.

No need to dodge or bob and weave just HUG IT OUT

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FLOYD GOT A WAY WITH TOO MUCH FOULING AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT.