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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #41
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    common sense tells us you cant offer a more known fighter, with a FOTY type fight against a top 3 HW, less than you are offering jarrell miller......hearn set the market.....offering less than what he offered miller is insulting and a way to kill the chance

    which is exactly what eddie wants...he wants ****** fgts like you to believe he tried when he insulted someone else again

    DAZN offered wilder more than twice hearns best offer while telling eddie to "sit this one out...we will handle it"....and others have come out talking about hearns notorious lowballing LOL
    Ortiz said he would accept almost any money offer after the Miller fight was already signed.

    Ortiz set his market value.

    He got offered what he asked and turned it down.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      Ortiz said he would accept almost any money offer after the Miller fight was already signed.

      Ortiz set his market value.

      He got offered what he asked and turned it down.
      no....hearn set the market....since he made the deal with miller

      robbie arent you a confirmed minor? didnt WBC pull your card? you are a certified ****** fgt that has no idea about money and markets...and how life works...go beat off into a sock

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        #43
        Im sorry it cant be coincidence these American fighters are having a hard time getting an aj fight. It damn sure aint ducking. Either these really are lowball offers or they dont respect aj as an A side

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          #44
          Originally posted by Curt Henning
          no....hearn set the market....since he made the deal with miller

          robbie arent you a confirmed minor? didnt WBC pull your card? you are a certified ****** fgt that has no idea about money and markets...and how life works...go beat off into a sock
          Ortiz said he would accept just about any money AFTER the Miller fight was already announced. Ortiz set his value.

          Now you've gone to personal insults because you lost your argument.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            Ortiz said he would accept just about any money AFTER the Miller fight was already announced. Ortiz set his value.

            Now you've gone to personal insults because you lost your argument.

            its true though isnt it? you are a minor who has never tasted the pleasures of the flesh.....unless we count your uncle

            also..you displays signs of autism

            have a good one

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              #46
              Originally posted by Curt Henning
              heres ortiz months ago "ill take just about anything you offer"

              hearn does not offer ortiz anything or contact him about a fight

              hearn goes to miller and signs the fight...for miller to make 6.5

              miller fails test...they now need opponent....ortiz wants what miller was getting

              what ortiz said a couple of months ago means nothing because they never tried to negotiate with ortiz months ago and it was now known what hearn set the market at....grow up robbie you little ****** peon
              Do you understand anything about boxing?

              You assume Ortiz should now get what Miller was getting. Why?

              To the casuals who drive the viewing figures he's a nobody. So was Miller. The difference is that Miller could sell the fight. Unbeaten record, NY boy, big mouth. And a real big unit - that gets people excited.

              And here's the other difference. Ortiz is the more credible boxer, and the more unorthodox to prepare for. Why would Joshua pay big money for a guy who is a bit of a risk and brings little to the table? Kownacki or Hunter would make a better promotion with less risk.

              It's a voluntary defence. The obligation is absolutely on Ortiz to take the chance.

              Now we don't know what Ortiz was offered. But if it's in the millions then it's a credible offer for the reasons stated above. Tbh, I don't even know why they would talk to Ortiz. No resume, no English, not American, not interesting, appears to be the riskiest fighter available.

              All credit to Joshua if he's actually tried to make that fight. It could only be for sporting reasons.

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                #47
                Originally posted by B Phontain
                Im sorry it cant be coincidence these American fighters are having a hard time getting an aj fight. It damn sure aint ducking. Either these really are lowball offers or they dont respect aj as an A side
                Told you these Wilder fans are ******ed. Since when did Ortiz become American?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Curt Henning
                  its true though isnt it? you are a minor who has never tasted the pleasures of the flesh.....unless we count your uncle

                  also..you displays signs of autism

                  have a good one
                  /end thread. The TS is done he has no argument.

                  Robbie Barrett owns another tard.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by B Phontain
                    Im sorry it cant be coincidence these American fighters are having a hard time getting an aj fight. It damn sure aint ducking. Either these really are lowball offers or they dont respect aj as an A side
                    DAZN went and double hearns two best offers...and when they did it they told eddie to stay home

                    hearn has also been spoken about by several other fighters as a lowballer

                    should tell you all you need to know.....

                    you know who doesnt have problems getting fights with AJ? jarell millers, 40 year old washed povetkins or carlos takams

                    but a legit top 5 HW that has a FOTY type fight against wilder cant get one

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Toffee
                      Do you understand anything about boxing?

                      You assume Ortiz should now get what Miller was getting. Why?

                      To the casuals who drive the viewing figures he's a nobody. So was Miller. The difference is that Miller could sell the fight. Unbeaten record, NY boy, big mouth. And a real big unit - that gets people excited.

                      And here's the other difference. Ortiz is the more credible boxer, and the more unorthodox to prepare for. Why would Joshua pay big money for a guy who is a bit of a risk and brings little to the table? Kownacki or Hunter would make a better promotion with less risk.

                      It's a voluntary defence. The obligation is absolutely on Ortiz to take the chance.

                      Now we don't know what Ortiz was offered. But if it's in the millions then it's a credible offer for the reasons stated above. Tbh, I don't even know why they would talk to Ortiz. No resume, no English, not American, not interesting, appears to be the riskiest fighter available.

                      All credit to Joshua if he's actually tried to make that fight. It could only be for sporting reasons.
                      lol more senseless drivel from a tried and true AJ ball gargler

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