common sense and history tell us ortiz is telling the truth

[Tyistall]

its true though isnt it? you are a minor who has never tasted the pleasures of the flesh.....unless we count your uncle

also..you displays signs of autism

have a good one

I'm with Robbie Barrett. You are an idiot who posts ****** **** about AJ while backing the ducking fraud Wilder. Are you ****ing him or what? If not, then you need to wake up and smell your ass burning because Wilder and Ortiz just ducked the fight and let millions slip through their fingers. DAZN overpays EVERYBODY so it goes to reason that they would overpay Ortiz too. Especially since your idol(boyfriend?) Wilder only gave him 500k for that rigged fight they had.

[Toffee]

hearn set the market....miller was a top 10 ranked guy....miller does not have a FOTY type fight in NYC against a top 3 HW....ortiz does....neither miller or ortiz have a belt.....so whatever miller is worth ortiz is worth at least that....no less

hearn set the market you dummy....hes the one in control and he makes the offers/deals with AJs opponents

its no secret he set a terrible market with wilder though.....in order to dodge the fight....and his terrible set market was proven when DAZN told him to stay home and then offered wilder more than twice hearns BEST offer...lol

Christ you're dumb.

It's been explained to you why Miller was a draw. And your argument is that Ortiz is a bigger draw on the basis of a losing effort against Wilder. He no speaky English dickhead!

And it's been explained to you that Hearn doesn't set the market. If he did then every fight he proposed would get made. Your comment about DAZN doesn't even make sense (and isn't factual). How does he set the market when you claim DAZN doubled his best offer (which they didn't) and the offer still didn't get accepted?

We may be at the crux of the issue here. You don't know what the term "set the market" means do you? Do you know what "the market" is?

Generally I can agree to differ, but you're so plainly wrong on so many levels.

[Jax teller]

hearn ballwashers out in full force in damage control

they are now worse than golovkins fans and their "golovkin never did anything wrong and everything is everyone elses fault" attitude

it was PROVEN that hearns offers to wilder were lowballs...DAZN told eddie "stay home we got this" an offered wilder twice hearns BEST offer

ortiz is now accusing him of lowballing....and several other fighters have accused hearn of the SAME thing

yet the ballwashers are here to tell you its everyone else that is lying and eddie has done nothing wrong! talk about a bunch of duds...lol

I can't see Hearn offering Ortiz less than Miller even if he believed Miller had a higher normal commercial value because now he needs a decent replacement. Ortiz has the laws of supply and demand in his favour which Eddie will know and if Eddie offered him less he'd be a fool.

Also you're aguing with people that an offer IS a low-ball and none of us even have a ball park figure yet from Ortiz or Hearn.

You should probably take a day off pal.

[Curt Henning]

theyre out in full force! must be morning over there in the jolly ole UK!

[Curt Henning]

I'm with Robbie Barrett. You are an idiot who posts ****** **** about AJ while backing the ducking fraud Wilder. Are you ****ing him or what? If not, then you need to wake up and smell your ass burning because Wilder and Ortiz just ducked the fight and let millions slip through their fingers. DAZN overpays EVERYBODY so it goes to reason that they would overpay Ortiz too. Especially since your idol(boyfriend?) Wilder only gave him 500k for that rigged fight they had.

robbie is a confirmed minor who has never paid a bill of his own in his life! lol.....

rigged fight? hahahahahahahahahahahaha....hahahahahahahahaha.... .wow.....i knew i was dealing with delusional people...but didnt think you losers would take it that far...hahahaha rigged

yikes!

[Curt Henning]

oh man...it must be nice for you guys knowing you can say anything and dont have to look someone in the eye while saying...you guys say whatever comes to your minds with no shame....my arguments are based on logic and common sense....and hearn being a lowballer has been confirmed by other fighters and even the very own network that hearn provides fights for....

yet you guys are still here with no shame trying to tell me wilder/ortiz was rigged!

hey man AJ /klit was rigged! yeah man totally! hahahaha......i dont think ive ever seen someone defend wilder and go that low.....i mean its probably happened but iver never seen it!

hey guys just say anything! dont worry...all you have to look at is your screen! who cares if its illogical and not backed by anything!

[Robbie Barrett]

Cuet Henning arguing that offers he doesn't even know how much they were are lowball.

Even though it's irrelevant anyway because Ortiz said he would accept just about any offer.

[Curt Henning]

DAZN confirmed hearn lowballed wilder twice by offering more than double hearns top offer

ortiz says he was lowballed

several other fighters have accused hearn of the same thing...and not just in the HW division

yet somehow we should believe hearn!!!!

i love it! sounds like sound logic! hearn wouldnt lie...its everyone else lying and conspiring because they are jealous right!!!!???? right!!! of course!!!

[Real King Kong]

its not going to matter....there would/will be no drop off in ticket sales.....ortiz should have been offered every dollar that miller was.....one could argue in fact that ortiz is actually a better name....i wont do that because its not worth the effort....but i could probably do it.....i think expecting a drop off at all is a reach....

I think Ortiz is the better fight, and it’s clear that miller didn’t deserve that $$$ in the first place, but I’m not sure I’d offer Ortiz the same money. Miller did his part to promote the fight, Ortiz would just be a replacement. It’s not gonna happen anyway, cuz it looks like Ortiz doesn’t want it.

[sicko]

Eddie own fighter has complained about "Low Ball Offers"

Guys seen Charles Martin get big money, also Big Baby was prepared to make $6.5 Million, why would someone like Ortiz take less than what Big Baby was going to get. In fact he might have legit argument that he should get MORE than Big Baby but that is another Topic. Same Deal Big Baby was getting and it is ZERO reason why Ortiz should turning it down. Anything less...then I somewhat understand! Don't agree with it but I totally Understand. Ortiz would be jumping in and saving their event so I wouldn't be shocked if he really did ask for $10 Million despite not deserving it