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  • Tyistall
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    #71
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    robbie is a confirmed minor who has never paid a bill of his own in his life! lol.....

    rigged fight? hahahahahahahahahahahaha....hahahahahahahahaha.... .wow.....i knew i was dealing with delusional people...but didnt think you losers would take it that far...hahahaha rigged

    yikes!
    Yikes is right. You never ever answer anything someone says about Wilder but you will try to discredit people any way you can. Again, are you ****ing Wilder, getting paid by him or just ******? Because you have to be one of those to come up with the ****** **** you post on here all the time. Wilder ducked the 120 million. Get that. Ortiz ducked 6 or 7 million. Get that too.

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    • otrocubiche
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      #72
      The only logical explanation is that he is dirty and cannot be tested now, if he is caught cheating he'd be banned for life. No matter how low was any offer, it would have been more than what he'd make during the rest of his career.
      Old habits die hard.

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      • REDEEMER
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        #73
        Originally posted by Curt Henning
        hearn ballwashers out in full force in damage control

        they are now worse than golovkins fans and their "golovkin never did anything wrong and everything is everyone elses fault" attitude

        it was PROVEN that hearns offers to wilder were lowballs...DAZN told eddie "stay home we got this" an offered wilder twice hearns BEST offer

        ortiz is now accusing him of lowballing....and several other fighters have accused hearn of the SAME thing

        yet the ballwashers are here to tell you its everyone else that is lying and eddie has done nothing wrong! talk about a bunch of duds...lol
        Hearn didnt offer Miller any amount of money that was DAZN after Whyte declined the fight to get an opponent because Miller demanded more he was afraid just like Ortiz is. So no ,Hearn doesn't have to match DAZN's offer they made because it is two separate negotiations , we don't even know what he offered Ortiz who stated publicly he wanted 10 million so hes pricing himself out so why would Hearn play cat and mouse with weeks left ?

        Full of false info as usual .
        Last edited by REDEEMER; 04-23-2019, 09:01 PM.

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        • RoyJonesJrp4pno1
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          #74
          Originally posted by Curt Henning
          i agree....thats my point

          common sense tells you no way he turned down a good deal...and serious doubt would be cast if any deal was actually offered

          he said terms were discussed...id love to hear what was offered....if 6.5 was discussed and he said "dont bother" id have to blame ortiz.....that would be a great deal which is why id have a hard time believing even that was offered....most likely a lowball offer designed to be turned down so they could say "we tried".......we know how hearn operates and its been told by a few
          If he was offered anything 2mill or above he had to accept.

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          • _Rexy_
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            #75
            From what I’ve read, there was a Lowball offer, turned down and that’s it. No contract, no negotiations.

            I’d love to see a list of fighters who have claimed the same thing with Hearn.

            Wilder
            Whyte
            Wilder
            Fury
            Ortiz

            I’m sure I’m missing some...


            Looking forward to AJ vs Trevor Bryan though. The UK Hearniac casual crowd can talk about how AJ beat an American heavyweight champion.

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            • Toffee
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              #76
              Originally posted by _Rexy_
              From what I’ve read, there was a Lowball offer, turned down and that’s it. No contract, no negotiations.

              I’d love to see a list of fighters who have claimed the same thing with Hearn.

              Wilder
              Whyte
              Wilder
              Fury
              Ortiz

              I’m sure I’m missing some...


              Looking forward to AJ vs Trevor Bryan though. The UK Hearniac casual crowd can talk about how AJ beat an American heavyweight champion.
              And what do they have in common? They were offered career high paydays to fight AJ and walked away.

              They think they deserve more. Fair enough. But of the offers that we have some knowledge of, what do you think?

              40% for both Fury and Wilder is absolutely a good offer. Was it around $5 million for Whyte?

              They're not lowball offers.

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              • _Rexy_
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                #77
                Originally posted by Toffee
                And what do they have in common? They were offered career high paydays to fight AJ and walked away.

                They think they deserve more. Fair enough. But of the offers that we have some knowledge of, what do you think?

                40% for both Fury and Wilder is absolutely a good offer. Was it around $5 million for Whyte?

                They're not lowball offers.
                Doesn’t matter what their career paydays are though. if I go to a job interview and everyone in my position makes 100k a year and they offer me minimum wage because that’s what I made at my last job, should I take it?

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                • BattlingNelson
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by _Rexy_
                  From what I’ve read, there was a Lowball offer, turned down and that’s it. No contract, no negotiations.

                  I’d love to see a list of fighters who have claimed the same thing with Hearn.

                  Wilder
                  Whyte
                  Wilder
                  Fury
                  Ortiz

                  I’m sure I’m missing some...


                  Looking forward to AJ vs Trevor Bryan though. The UK Hearniac casual crowd can talk about how AJ beat an American heavyweight champion.
                  Well that is definetely a lowball trend that Hearn's marketing department has to deal with.

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                  • KillaMane26
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                    #79
                    Don't see why yall dont put yall agendas and emotions to the side and wait till we see what the offer was...

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                    • Stinger1
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by _Rexy_
                      Doesn’t matter what their career paydays are though. if I go to a job interview and everyone in my position makes 100k a year and they offer me minimum wage because that’s what I made at my last job, should I take it?
                      That's a terrible analogy. It's more like you have 2 job offers, job number one is a few hours work a day, 3 days a week and you'll get $15,000 a year, the other is 50 hours a week of difficult work for $150,000 a year. Do you take the easy job or the hard job? Most who have been offered the Joshua fight take the easy job.

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