common sense and history tell us ortiz is telling the truth

[Curt Henning]

ortiz is like 39-40(the pbc haters suggest hes closer to 50)...so he dont have much time left
aj and wilder hold all belts so he has no other title shot lined up anywhere...and ortiz claims being a world champ is his dream(everyone believes other fighters when they say that
ortiz has shown willingness to fight wilder which AJ hasnt...and he even wanted a rematch but couldnt get it

on the other side

weve seen hearn lowball offer wilder twice...these were confirmed when DAZN kept hearn at bay and offered wilder more than double either offer from hearn

hearn has also been called a lowballer by people other than wilders team...

hearn is a confirmed liar and BS artist

lets face it....ortiz is better than miller and way too dangerous on short notice....they didnt want to fight ortiz on regular notice...theres no way theyd accept him as a replacement...they had in their head theyd be fighting an overweight, slow, orthodox fighter....theres no way they want short notice against a lefthander

ESPN rates ortiz the 5th best HW while the unbeaten miller does not rate in the top 10......its obvious they wont accept him as a replacement

its common sense and basic logic

[DuckAdonis]

Yeah FOH man!

Ortiz always keeps running his mouth when Joshua has a fight signed...but now that he could've actually fought Joshua he is making excuses and kept quiet like a church mouse until now!
He only opens his mouth only when he can't fight AJ anymore.

First he said he would fight Joshua as a replacement for Miller for any kind of money before Miller failed his tests. Now his @ss is saying that he got low-ball offers. Pathetic AF. He wants no part of Joshua like Wilder. Happy fighting bums like Kaufmann. Fu#k off please. I'm done with this guy


And you're a Wilder Fanboy/PBC shill. I don't believe anything you say. Good day.

[Curt Henning]

Yeah FOH man!

Ortiz always keeps running his mouth when Joshua has a fight signed...but now that he could've actually fought Joshua he is making excuses and kept quiet like a church mouse until now!
He only opens his mouth only when he can't fight AJ anymore.

First he said he would fight Joshua as a replacement for Miller for any kind of money before Miller failed his tests. Now his @ss is saying that he got low-ball offers. Pathetic AF. He wants no part of Joshua like Wilder. Happy fighting bums like Kaufmann. Fu#k off please. I'm done with this guy


And you're a Wilder Fanboy/PBC shill. I don't believe anything you say. Good day.

dude....stop letting your emotions get the best of you

ortiz is ranked #5 in espn and ring...hes a consensus top 5 HW.....ortiz has spent 72 weeks as a top 10 ranked HW in ring rankings

miller isnt a top 10 guy in either.......they were about to fight an outisde the top 10 guy that was right handed.....you think they were gonna replace him on short notice with a top 5 ranked southpaw? lol

hearn is a known lowballer...its been confirmed in his wilder tactics but also by others hes dealth with

[lfc19titles]

A Haymon fan backing a Haymon fighter

Whats new

[Ray*]

Lmaoooo keep ducking. Highest payday 500k, daughter with a medical condition, a couple of months ago I would fight for free. Last week 7 weeks isn’t enough time, stays silent for a week, now after all the negative talks they come out with the “Low blow offer statement” how original.

[Curt Henning]

if hearn can prove/confirm he was discussing 6.5 and ready to send a contract to team ortiz then i will retract this

until then common sense/logic is on the side of team ortiz

[Mammoth]

I like Joshua and Wilder. I never thought we'd be desperately trying to discredit Ortiz fans just because some of us don't like Wilder.

Anyway, I figured this fight wasn't going to happen.

[Curt Henning]

Lmaoooo keep ducking. Highest payday 500k, daughter with a medical condition, a couple of months ago I would fight for free. Last week 7 weeks isn’t enough time, stays silent for a week, now after all the negative talks they come out with the “Low blow offer statement” how original.

of course he was silent....he was discussing the fight with team hearn....they told him to be quiet

when hearn can confirm prove he discussed 6.5 to team ortiz and was ready to send a contract i will retract everything i just said publicly....until then what ortiz said seems logical

he had every right to every dollar that miller was set to earn....not anymore...not any less

[redmish]

dude....stop letting your emotions get the best of you

ortiz is ranked #5 in espn and ring...hes a consensus top 5 HW.....ortiz has spent 72 weeks as a top 10 ranked HW in ring rankings

miller isnt a top 10 guy in either.......they were about to fight an outisde the top 10 guy that was right handed.....you think they were gonna replace him on short notice with a top 5 ranked southpaw? lol

hearn is a known lowballer...its been confirmed in his wilder tactics but also by others hes dealth with

And who has he fought in those 72 weeks? Travis Kauffman and Christian Hammer. With that level of competition Dave Allen would be afforded the same position in the rankings. Ortiz is a mouthy fraud, no more, no less.

[DuckAdonis]

dude....stop letting your emotions get the best of you

ortiz is ranked #5 in espn and ring...hes a consensus top 5 HW.....ortiz has spent 72 weeks as a top 10 ranked HW in ring rankings

miller isnt a top 10 guy in either.......they were about to fight an outisde the top 10 guy that was right handed.....you think they were gonna replace him on short notice with a top 5 ranked southpaw? lol

hearn is a known lowballer...its been confirmed in his wilder tactics but also by others hes dealth with

Where Ortiz is ranked has nothing to do with him ducking Joshua. Miller was ranked top 10 by ESPN last week dumb@ss lmfao...and The Ring and TRBR...They only removed him from their rankings because he failed those PED tests. Ranked #7 by ESPN actually and #7 by TRBR

Now try again