common sense and history tell us ortiz is telling the truth

[SN!PER]

Team Ortiz made a smart decision.

Luis Ortiz vs. Deontay Wilder II is a monster fight.

Huge payday, three months promotional tour, and a full training camp.

[Curt Henning]

And who has he fought in those 72 weeks? Travis Kauffman and Christian Hammer. With that level of competition Dave Allen would be afforded the same position in the rankings. Ortiz is a mouthy fraud, no more, no less.

those are the guys hes fought...and yet he remains in the top 5

now look at millers opposition and him staring outside the top 10 looking in

[DaNeutral.]

ortiz is like 39-40(the pbc haters suggest hes closer to 50)...so he dont have much time left
aj and wilder hold all belts so he has no other title shot lined up anywhere...and ortiz claims being a world champ is his dream(everyone believes other fighters when they say that
ortiz has shown willingness to fight wilder which AJ hasnt...and he even wanted a rematch but couldnt get it

on the other side

weve seen hearn lowball offer wilder twice...these were confirmed when DAZN kept hearn at bay and offered wilder more than double either offer from hearn

hearn has also been called a lowballer by people other than wilders team...

hearn is a confirmed liar and BS artist

lets face it....ortiz is better than miller and way too dangerous on short notice....they didnt want to fight ortiz on regular notice...theres no way theyd accept him as a replacement...they had in their head theyd be fighting an overweight, slow, orthodox fighter....theres no way they want short notice against a lefthander

ESPN rates ortiz the 5th best HW while the unbeaten miller does not rate in the top 10......its obvious they wont accept him as a replacement

its common sense and basic logic

Oh **** ive just realized who you are. You are that white guy on youtube who thinks he is a black guy and that you are part of the LDBC. Obviously you will deny this but im on to you man. Your YT channel is just awful and no the LDBC dont like you. Sorry.

As for your post here. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OK what ever. Lol.

[Real King Kong]

of course he was silent....he was discussing the fight with team hearn....they told him to be quiet

when hearn can confirm prove he discussed 6.5 to team ortiz and was ready to send a contract i will retract everything i just said publicly....until then what ortiz said seems logical

he had every right to every dollar that miller was set to earn....not anymore...not any less

why would he have every right to what miller was going to get? wouldn't it stand to reason that AJ vs an American in America, a fight that was already being promoted for months, would sell better than AJ vs a Cuban on short notice? I may be wrong, but I assume fans that already paid for tickets would be offered refunds if they wanted.

[Curt Henning]

Where Ortiz is ranked has nothing to do with him ducking Joshua. Miller was ranked top 10 by ESPN last week dumb@ss lmfao...and The Ring and TRBR...They only removed him from their rankings because he failed those PED tests. Ranked #7 by ESPN actually and #7 by TRBR

Now try again

ortiz still ranked ahead....and lefthanded......too dangerous.....when lil g took a replacement fighter did he take one as equal or better than canelo? nope he took vanes...many steps down....like alot........its logic and common sense.....guys dont end up taking guys of the same or better value or different stance

when charlo lost his last opponent he stayed with a lefthander too.....thats what guys do

[Curt Henning]

why would he have every right to what miller was going to get? wouldn't it stand to reason that AJ vs an American in America, a fight that was already being promoted for months, would sell better than AJ vs a Cuban on short notice? I may be wrong, but I assume fans that already paid for tickets would be offered refunds if they wanted.

ortiz is known in ny and was involved in a FOTY candidate there against one of the top 2-3 HWs in the world.....no one is there to see miller(yes i know where hes from)....its the AJ american debut....they could have picked kownacki and the fight would do exactly the same as it would do agaisnt miller

[DuckAdonis]

ortiz still ranked ahead....and lefthanded......too dangerous.....when lil g took a replacement fighter did he take one as equal or better than canelo? nope he took vanes...many steps down....like alot........its logic and common sense.....guys dont end up taking guys of the same or better value or different stance

when charlo lost his last opponent he stayed with a lefthander too.....thats what guys do

Wtf does GGG have to do with Joshua and Ortiz?

[Curt Henning]

Wtf does GGG have to do with Joshua and Ortiz?

same as charlo/matty...i mentioned that too....charlo was gonna fight a lefty and when he lost him he took another lefty.....AJ isnt gonna go from orthodox to lefty.....and he certainly isnt going to go up the HW ladder...hes going to go down it when looking for a replacement.....

were talking about guys that have recently had to find replacement fights...i didnt just mention golovkin

[4truth]

1) Ortiz can't pass the PED test and this story is just him trying to save face.

2) Hearn did try to lowball Ortiz and made the offer hoping it would not be accepted but wanted it known that they weren't ducking Ortiz.

There might be other possibilities, these are my current favorites.

[Curt Henning]

1) Ortiz can't pass the PED test and this story is just him trying to save face.

2) Hearn did try to lowball Ortiz and made the offer hoping it would not be accepted but wanted it known that they weren't ducking Ortiz.

There might be other possibilities, these are my current favorites.

both are plausible....yeah