Any AJ fanboy here willing to admit that they undersold Wilder?

[aboutfkntime]

How am I taken it upon myself? Like Wilder said at the press conference.

Men lie. women lie. numbers don't lie.

His numbers show that his biggest payday is between 7-8million.

I'm not contradicting anyone or anything.
As I mentioned, you can't grasp that overpay, deserve, should or should not take are different things.

there is no " overpay "

you completely made that rubbish up

because Eddie Hearn admitted that Wilder is worth 35%

there is no " overpay "..... there is only " lowball "

you made up " overpay " to justify why Joshua ducked Wilder

[aboutfkntime]

Originally Posted by aboutfkntime
why ask such a ****** question ?

why behave like that ?

why include the term " allegedly " when you are 100% well-aware that they accepted that offer?..... not even Eddie Hearn denied that Wilder accepted their offer

Wilder bet on himself..... he knew that it was a blatant lowball, but he actually wanted that fight..... and he believed that he could win, which is more than we can say about the other guy

not the first time that has happened in this sport man

now they know that Team Joshua are disingenuous

the lowballs, and the losing of pens..... actually happened dude, and that was the cause of this situation..... so regarding your 100m question, which really is just an excuse to whitewash the lowballing and pen-losing..... all I can suggest is..... Team Wilder moved on when they realized that Team Bullshlt were not serious..... now they have mapped out their own path, and will only consider fighting Joshua on their terms

they are doing exactly what Team Joshua did..... and they are not worried about the result of their (imho) unrealistic position, becuase it appeared to them that a Joshua fight could possibly never happen anyway once it became obvious that Joshua would not even agree to the unreasonable offer made by Hearn

they moved on, they have plans, and they do not take Joshua very seriously..... which is exactly where Team Mayweather ended up when the same thing happened to them

Oh, so you’re choosing not to talk about the 100mil offer. You’d rather focus on past “offers” and negotiations that align with your feelings about the situation. AJ turns down alleged 50mil = he’s ducking...wilder rejects his 100mil...”I don’t wanna talk about it.”

I addressed that " issue "... ooops, I mean... excuse, completely

read again

so..... you need to completely forget about the lowballs, the pen-losing, and the lies..... that led to the 100m offer?

funny shlt man

[Jubei]

AJ is the only reason that Wilder is relevant at all, he used to fight in empty arenas and nobody cared about him for many years, even when he got a belt vs Stiverne nobody watched him, even now the only reason anybody heard of Wilder is because of the kingpin in the division, Joshua.

Wilder himself is a total nutjob, no education and only talks absolute nonsense. All he is doing now is protect his belt and use AJ for views while hiding in his backyard fighting inhouse crap.

[aboutfkntime]

So how much is Wilder going to be getting for the Breazeale fight? Not alot, they are not even willing to match the DAZN offer. I see they screwing Breazeale over too and he doesnt even have a say. It sure is a dictatorship at the PBC. Wilder says he takes control of his own career? He has ZERO control over his business dealings.

He has earnt less than 25million in over 40 fights in purse money. Hes been offered $80 for 2 fights against Anthony Joshua. That isnt enough? Need to nosey in to what Joshua is getting? He didnt turn down 12.5 or 15 cuz they were lowballs he turned them down because he is DUCKING. He is only getting offered this much to tempt him to stop DUCKING. But he has turned that down because he is DUCKING. Hell he is calling 40 million a lowball.

Wilder ACCEPTED the 15mil offer.....

..... but Hearn refused to include wording in the contract that guaranteed Joshua NEXT

sorry to fcuk that cool story, bro

Wilder called their lowball/bluff, but they lost their pen

[aboutfkntime]

No, it doesn't. 1 million buys at $75 is $75 million from domestic PPV alone. 30% goes to the PPV companies now, so that's $52.5 million in the pot. Easily tens of millions more from UK PPV, live gate, sponsors, foreign rights, closed circuit, movie theaters, delayed broadcast rights, etc.

The fighters would end up with way way more than 24 million.

I think that is a $100M fight

hence that earlier 50mil offer to Joshua

[aboutfkntime]

AJ is the only reason that Wilder is relevant at all, he used to fight in empty arenas and nobody cared about him for many years, even when he got a belt vs Stiverne nobody watched him, even now the only reason anybody heard of Wilder is because of the kingpin in the division, Joshua.

Wilder himself is a total nutjob, no education and only talks absolute nonsense. All he is doing now is protect his belt and use AJ for views while hiding in his backyard fighting inhouse crap.

and yet..... before the Fury fight, Hearn admitted that Wilder is worth 35% with Joshua

so, your post is basically.....

[LacedUp]

there is no " overpay "

you completely made that rubbish up

because Eddie Hearn admitted that Wilder is worth 35%

there is no " overpay "..... there is only " lowball "

you made up " overpay " to justify why Joshua ducked Wilder

How can 5x someone's best ever purse be a lowball offer? Only in Wilder fanboy land.

You don't make sense bro. As I said, you're a fooking idiot.

[aboutfkntime]

How can 5x someone's best ever purse be a lowball offer? Only in Wilder fanboy land.

You don't make sense bro. As I said, you're a fooking idiot.

because..... before the Fury fight, Hearn slipped up and admitted that Wilder is worth 35% to Joshua

how come I painted you a picture, yet you still don't get it?

how come I already explained to you that Wilders previous paycheck has nothing whatsoever to do with his worth against Joshua..... and yet you don't get that either?

grow up kid LMAO

[aboutfkntime]

Golovkin cannot sell shlt, compared to Canelo

Pacquiao cannot sell shlt, compared to Mayweather

both of those guys got paid 40%'ish because of what the fight could generate with them involved

I bet this turned up clown..... who is certain to be a pac-tard/golov-idiot..... suddenly flip-flops on his "5x more than you ever earned" bullshlt lol

[kafkod]

The AJ fans said Wilder was ducking at $5m and that it was a good deal.
The AJ fans said Wilder was ducking at $15m and that it was a good deal.
The AJ fans now say Wilder is ducking at $40m and that it was a good deal.

The first two statements weren't true at the time yet the AJ fans were all up in arms about how Wilder was a chump who was ducking AJ. It was funny how certain people here - mostly from a particular region in the world - have stamped their feet and thrown temper tantrums about how Wilder was a coward. Not a week went by without a new thread from some of these folks. Considering the short amount of time that has passed and the amount that the offers have risen, it shows that all those fanboys were wrong - those deals ****** all along as some of us said they did. They were chump change deals and now everyone knows it. Time to apologize, fanboys. You were and are wrong.

Somehow though the narrative hasn't changed yet from those same trash posters because they're not mature enough to admit it. They instead continue to double (triple?) down on their own idiocy. They still claim Wilder is ducking AJ. Guess what? He didn't duck him then and he isn't ducking now. And for the millionth time I will say that I believe AJ has the upper hand in a match between him and Wilder. When that fight happens I'm putting money on AJ.

So let's get this out there. Wilder's pattern isn't ducking and it's actually quite consistent. Instead, Wilder has and continues to bet on himself. He could have taken the guaranteed low-ball money but he's continually doubled down on his ability to bank more later. And that belief has been rewarded as he banks more in each fight. Now he's talking big time numbers. He's like a poker player and his pile of chips has steadily increased. Was this the right time to push them to the middle? It's pretty obvious that he doesn't think so.

As for my personal take, I'm inclined to believe that the current offers are good. I think we're finally into the ballpark of what is the reasonable market rate. Without knowing any more I probably would have taken it. But I'm not privy to all the offers Wilder has received and I doubt anyone else here is either. It may be that by waiting another 3 months and KOing Breazeale - if he does - could up that offer to $200M over 3-4 fights. We simply don't know what the maximum upside is since undefeated heavyweights historically have always commanded the most money. It could be that by holding out just a few more months and another win both he and Joshua could make money that makes the Floyd-Pac gate look small. If Wilder thinks (or more likely if it's already down on paper) that he could make more by winning his next one and then signing then he's just betting on himself which is what he's done consistently. It could be a smart move or his run at the table could end suddenly and all those potential riches would instantly evaporate. That's the risk he's taking and we'll see if it pays off or whether it's one of the dumbest business decisions in boxing history.

But Deontay doesn't care about money. He just wants to fight the best and give the fans what they want .. "one name, one man, one champion"