Any AJ fanboy here willing to admit that they undersold Wilder?

[Mirror Universe]

Nah Wilder could have fought AJ twice by now and had 40-55 mil in the bank already instead of the 7 from Fury.

How would he have 40-55 mil in the bank already? Hearn was offering 15 flat for an April 2019 fight.

You have no idea whether Wilder made 7 against Fury or 14, or 4 for that matter.

Meanwhile, AJ could have fought Wilder in September, made 50 million, and be making another 50 for a rematch next month if he won, and 30 if he lost. So it works both ways.

[trilltexas]

One more year for this fight

[Jax teller]

How would he have 40-55 mil in the bank already? Hearn was offering 15 flat for an April 2019 fight.

You have no idea whether Wilder made 7 against Fury or 14, or 4 for that matter.

Meanwhile, AJ could have fought Wilder in September, made 50 million, and be making another 50 for a rematch next month if he won, and 30 if he lost. So it works both ways.

15 mil wasn't for April 19 it could've been Sep 18 if Wilder had pulled his finger out his ass or Nov at the latest, this is a ****** argument. It's generally accepted that the PPV figures did not reach levels to provide Wilder with the 14 mil and cover the card.

The first 15 mil and then he would likely have got 25-40 mil for the rematch.

AJ must've made over 50 mil last year anyway 26mil ish for each of the Parker and Povetkin fights plus with the BT angle (confirmed by Dibella and Warren) on the 50 million offer, AJ may well have had to pay half or more to Sky to buy himself out of the contract as I'm sure they'd want to be covered for their loss of earnings.

See this is the clear difference AJ has already seen that level of money which is ten times larger than Wilders largest purse was 2.5 mil at the time an he can't generate the kinds of money being offered on his own unless it's over 10 fights.


Also just with this loyalty angle if he wasn't being taken advantage of Showtime ,the Billion dollar company, would have matched the DAZN for Breazeale of as an investment towards getting the big money fight not having the fighter footing the bill. Wilder is being mugged.

[Granath]

Alt spotted. You’ll be in here with your main agreeing with yourself no doubt.

Can't attack the message so attack the messenger?

Not the first time I've been accused of an alt. I'm still waiting to find out who I'm supposed to be. Please let me know.


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And as expected, the same crew still refuse to admit they were barking up the wrong tree all along. If Wilder wins against Breazeale, which isn't a sure thing, he'll make far more than he would have signing now.

PS - Wilder isn't getting $12.5M for Breazeale. There's little doubt Showtime upped their offer. https://www.latimes.com/sports/boxin...319-story.html And if he can get that for fighting his mando, why they hell would he ever take similar bank to fight AJ (who would take home 5x that number)?

[W1LL]

It's easy to preach in hindsight. Back when those offers were made they were a lot more than Deontay Wilder had made previously. Without Tyson Fury, Wilder would still be making the same. As has widely been reported, if Wilder is getting $20m to fight Dominic Breazeale, somebody is losing a lot of money on that show. Wilder needs Fury or Anthony Joshua to make career-high money. Whereas Fury and AJ can make that kinda money without Wilder. And Wilder's handlers seem to think they are gonna make Mike Tyson-level money but they just don't have the fighter for that. Wilder isn't a superstar, he's a swamp-dwelling bumpkin who stumbles through media events. Give it six months and any hype from the Fury robbery will have died down. They have really put the pressure on themselves, and reality is they may not be worth $40m anymore by the year's end.

[Mirror Universe]

15 mil wasn't for April 19 it could've been Sep 18 if Wilder had pulled his finger out his ass or Nov at the latest

Not true. The contract Hearn sent for 15 flat had no mention of when the fight would be and when Finkel pointed that out, Hearn said he'd send the date in a few days. A few days later he sent the date and it was April 2019. Wilder never had an opportunity to fight Joshua in September 2018. Hearn refused to allow it.

[CharlieStewart]

No. Wilder 'accepted' the $15m, so there's no leg to stand on there, and Wilder still hasn't earned the starting offer of $12.5m in his entire career. At the time it was x10 his largest pay day, Joshua was generating $30m a fight while wilder was generating $4m. It was the most generous offer a weak b side has ever been offered and we've continued down that trajectory of Wilder being offered the biggest overpays in boxing history, which the coward has rejected choosing to 'marinate' the fight proving that they always wanted to delay the Joshua fight all along anyway.

[Mirror Universe]

No. Wilder 'accepted' the $15m, so there's no leg to stand on there, and Wilder still hasn't earned the starting offer of $12.5m in his entire career.

He accepted 15 as long as the fight was next. Hearn refused to do the fight next, so Wilder walked away from the negotiation.

You really have no way of knowing what Wilder has earned in his career. The media reports are that he earned 14 million in his last fight and he just turned down a 3 fight/100 million offer. So chances are he's earned way more than 12.5 in his entire career. Maybe you'd be better off sticking to being a boxing fan instead of trying to be an accountant.

[CharlieStewart]

He accepted 15 as long as the fight was next. Hearn refused to do the fight next, so Wilder walked away from the negotiation.

You really have no way of knowing what Wilder has earned in his career. The media reports are that he earned 14 million in his last fight and he just turned down a 3 fight/100 million offer. So chances are he's earned way more than 12.5 in his entire career. Maybe you'd be better off sticking to being a boxing fan instead of trying to be an accountant.

I am a boxing fan thats precisely the reason why i can't stand clowns defending a cherry picking paper champ holding the division hostage and justifying it with bull**** numbers (LOL @ Wilder making 14m vs Fury. Delusional)
So whats the reason for ignoring Hearns attempts at making the fight at Wembley? because he said mean things about Alabama?
How do we blame Hearn for Wilder rejecting DAZNs offer which Hearn wasn't involved in? the excuses are never ending.

When you want to ignore offers, stand up networks at meetings and never attempt to negotiate you don't want the fight to be made. But don't take my word for it, they've already admitted to it. Just own it, stop trying to laud them for delaying the fight while you try to blame Hearn for the fight being delayed.

[Jax teller]

Not true. The contract Hearn sent for 15 flat had no mention of when the fight would be and when Finkel pointed that out, Hearn said he'd send the date in a few days. A few days later he sent the date and it was April 2019. Wilder never had an opportunity to fight Joshua in September 2018. Hearn refused to allow it.

LMAO your that WBC,IBF, WWE G A Y mutha fooka! (Don't let Robbie see you on here)

What you said just isn't true since Hearn didn't have dates or the venue booked till around month later after the povetkin fight was demaned and the Wilder fight was off. Wilder also moaned when they had a date and venue offer because they had a date and venue outlined. No date and venue is the most ****** and presumptious arguments.

How long till you start calling everyone a liar again, really giving away who you are?