Any AJ fanboy here willing to admit that they undersold Wilder?

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    #101
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    I agree with you about the split

    it is not the issue

    but I disagree with you about DAZN

    that situation could easily be worked out, and Joshua/Wilder would please DAZN immensely

    the issue is..... that Wilder is a HUGE risk, and Joshua simply does not need to take that risk at this point in his career..... he has too many options, so he is making hay while the sun shines
    In the DAZN offer, the second fight would have been in the UK and there wouldn't have been neutral officials. So the deck would be stacked to make sure AJ wins the second fight, leaving Wilder on his way out the door on a loss, with Hearn delivering two massive fights to DAZN. Even if it costs Joshua his 0 in the process, it'd be worth it.

    But Hearn has no incentive to allow Joshua and Wilder to maximize their earnings by taking the fight to PPV. Whatever Hearn's taste of the PPV would be pales in comparison to the money at stake when it comes to keeping DAZN happy. People forget only the first two years of Hearn's deal with DAZN are guaranteed. DAZN can cut bait after that and now that they have Canelo, do they really need to be giving all of this money to a UK promoter who has failed to land significant US stars?

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      #102
      Originally posted by Real King Kong
      Is 100mil a “lowball offer”? No? Then you should have nothing to complain about...which is probably why you’re whining about **** from last year lol. We may very well get the fight next anyway, but if not, wilder is the obstacle here. Current events man, not last year’s events.



      they could have fought 3x already

      with all of that lowballing, and pen-losing..... and now that Wilder has the Fury rematch firmly fixed as an option..... they moved on from Joshua

      why is it so easy for you to sweep the lowballing and pen-losing under the carpet..... like it never happened?

      it happened bro..... denial is most unbecoming

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        #103
        Originally posted by juggernaut666
        The 12.5 % was offered in April 2018 You ****** mofo...lol.

        At that time that was over 6 times Wilders highest pay and about 25% of what finkels own numbers were ona 50 million fight which was then an agreed to 15 million which is 30% of that number. Whicch was then 8 times more Wilders highest pay.

        Hearn went over his 35% mark after the Fury fight when Wilder gained more profile base with a actual PPV event and upped it to 40% and wilder still RAN away.

        You fools still continue to defend the imbecile...wow I cant wait to see a chance Breazeale knocks out Wilder and then see what is said on this forum ! What a clown you are.



        he fkn did not man..... don't talk shlt

        if you are going to sling mud, you need to get it right

        " dumb mofo "..... ?

        Hearn slipped up and admitted that Wilder is worth 35% to Joshua BEFORE the Fury fight

        so yea, cool story bro

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          #104
          Originally posted by Mirror Universe
          I don't see the split as the biggest issue. I think Hearn would do 60/40 tomorrow and I think Wilder could probably be talked into accepting 60/40 if the split was reversed in the rematch if he wins the first fight.

          The biggest issue is that the fight would make the most money on PPV and Hearn is under incredible pressure to please a new streaming service that is trying to eliminate PPV.

          That is the biggest hold up.
          Wilder was guaranteed around $10million more than Canelo earned from 2million+ US PPV sales in 2 fights with GGG.

          And that was just for the 2 fights against AJ. The $20million for his mando with Breazeale would have come on top of that.

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            #105
            Originally posted by Mirror Universe
            In the DAZN offer, the second fight would have been in the UK and there wouldn't have been neutral officials. So the deck would be stacked to make sure AJ wins the second fight, leaving Wilder on his way out the door on a loss, with Hearn delivering two massive fights to DAZN. Even if it costs Joshua his 0 in the process, it'd be worth it.

            But Hearn has no incentive to allow Joshua and Wilder to maximize their earnings by taking the fight to PPV. Whatever Hearn's taste of the PPV would be pales in comparison to the money at stake when it comes to keeping DAZN happy. People forget only the first two years of Hearn's deal with DAZN are guaranteed. DAZN can cut bait after that and now that they have Canelo, do they really need to be giving all of this money to a UK promoter who has failed to land significant US stars?


            hmmm.....

            that is not without thought/reason

            that could be a fair point

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              #106
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              he fkn did not man..... don't talk shlt

              if you are going to sling mud, you need to get it right

              " dumb mofo "..... ?

              Hearn slipped up and admitted that Wilder is worth 35% to Joshua BEFORE the Fury fight

              so yea, cool story bro
              All you do is post dumb shyte, made up shyte.....Wilders flat fee was worth around that number ...

              35 % of 50 million is 17 million

              He AGREED to 15 million which is roughly 32%

              So you're telling me wilder RAN away for a 3% discrepancy ? When making 2,1 as a highest and averaging 1.4 million PER fight ? This WAS March 2018 numbers . DUMMY.

              Hearn offered him 28 million after the Fury fight you idiot which is double now with rematch upside and he turned it down .and that's more then 40% altogether...you Dummy.

              You still haven't a LEGIT logical excuse why he RAN from 40 % 100 million fight and two way rematch clause making 7 million as a highest pay either ?

              Yea that's correct, you are ONE Dumb MOFO,beyond a shadow of a doubt!
              Last edited by juggernaut666; 03-21-2019, 10:07 PM.

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                #107
                for the record.....

                Wilder/Fury took place on Sat, Dec 1, 2018.....
                http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/468841


                BEFORE that fight, on Mon, Oct 22, 2018.....

                " At the moment I think a split of 65-35 in AJ’s favour is fair "
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                Hearns inadvertent admission fcuked all of you silly excuse-makers

                the guys who realize that, are silent..... the guys who don't realize that..... are here embarrassing themselves in this very thread


                FACT: if " a split of 65-35 in AJ’s favour is fair "..... then an offer of 12m or 15m can only be described as a lowball

                THAT is not why you cvnts are ******..... you cvnts are ****** because that is OBVIOUSLY a $100M fight..... so any talk of 12m or 15m is just excuse-making ******ity that should never have been mentioned

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Mirror Universe
                  In the DAZN offer, the second fight would have been in the UK and there wouldn't have been neutral officials. So the deck would be stacked to make sure AJ wins the second fight, leaving Wilder on his way out the door on a loss, with Hearn delivering two massive fights to DAZN. Even if it costs Joshua his 0 in the process, it'd be worth it.

                  But Hearn has no incentive to allow Joshua and Wilder to maximize their earnings by taking the fight to PPV. Whatever Hearn's taste of the PPV would be pales in comparison to the money at stake when it comes to keeping DAZN happy. People forget only the first two years of Hearn's deal with DAZN are guaranteed. DAZN can cut bait after that and now that they have Canelo, do they really need to be giving all of this money to a UK promoter who has failed to land significant US stars?
                  They are not giving the money to Hearn, ffs!

                  Do you think John Skipper arranged a meeting with Wilder's team so he could try and persuade them to take $120million off him and pass it on to Eddie Hearn?

                  And what about Canelo's $350million? You think Canelo will be giving that to Eddie too?

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by juggernaut666
                    All you do is post dumb shyte, made up shyte.....Wilders flat fee was worth around that number ...

                    35 % of 50 million is 17 million

                    He AGREED to 15 million which is roughly 32%

                    So you're telling me wilder RAN away for a 3% discrepancy ? When making 2,1 as a highest and averaging 1.4 million PER fight ? This WAS March 2018 numbers . DUMMY.

                    You still haven't a LEGIT logical excuse why he RAN from 40 % 100 million fight and two way rematch clause making 7 million as a highest pay either ?

                    Yea that's correct, you are ONE Dumb MOFO,beyond a shadow of a doubt!



                    moron.....

                    un-moron yourself.....


                    Wilder/Fury took place on Sat, Dec 1, 2018.....
                    http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/468841


                    BEFORE that fight, on Mon, Oct 22, 2018.....
                    " At the moment I think a split of 65-35 in AJ’s favour is fair "
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                    Hearns inadvertent admission fcuked all of you silly excuse-makers..... so, give it a rest lmao

                    and btw, that is likely a 100m fight..... so yea, bollocks

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      moron.....

                      un-moron yourself.....


                      Wilder/Fury took place on Sat, Dec 1, 2018.....
                      http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/468841


                      BEFORE that fight, on Mon, Oct 22, 2018.....
                      " At the moment I think a split of 65-35 in AJ’s favour is fair "
                      Stay updated with the latest boxing news, fight results, interviews, and rankings. Get real-time coverage of upcoming bouts, analysis, and exclusive insights from the world of boxing.



                      Hearns inadvertent admission fcuked all of you silly excuse-makers..... so, give it a rest lmao

                      and btw, that is likely a 100m fight..... so yea, bollocks
                      All you do is post dumb shyte, made up shyte.....Wilders flat fee was worth around that number ...

                      35 % of 50 million is 17 million

                      He AGREED to 15 million which is roughly 32%

                      So you're telling me wilder RAN away for a 3% discrepancy ? When making 2,1 as a highest and averaging 1.4 million PER fight ? This WAS March 2018 numbers . DUMMY.

                      Hearn offered him 28 million after the Fury fight you idiot which is double now with rematch upside and he turned it down .and that's more then 40% altogether..which equals 80 million with Wilder win plus or 60 million in wilder loss that's about ELEVEN times what he made on the Fury fight.....you Dummy.

                      You still haven't a LEGIT logical excuse why he RAN from 40 % 100 million fight and two way rematch clause making 7 million as a highest pay either ?

                      Yea that's correct, you are ONE Dumb MOFO,beyond a shadow of a doubt!

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