Any AJ fanboy here willing to admit that they undersold Wilder?

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  • Granath
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    #1

    Any AJ fanboy here willing to admit that they undersold Wilder?

    The AJ fans said Wilder was ducking at $5m and that it was a good deal.
    The AJ fans said Wilder was ducking at $15m and that it was a good deal.
    The AJ fans now say Wilder is ducking at $40m and that it was a good deal.

    The first two statements weren't true at the time yet the AJ fans were all up in arms about how Wilder was a chump who was ducking AJ. It was funny how certain people here - mostly from a particular region in the world - have stamped their feet and thrown temper tantrums about how Wilder was a coward. Not a week went by without a new thread from some of these folks. Considering the short amount of time that has passed and the amount that the offers have risen, it shows that all those fanboys were wrong - those deals ****** all along as some of us said they did. They were chump change deals and now everyone knows it. Time to apologize, fanboys. You were and are wrong.

    Somehow though the narrative hasn't changed yet from those same trash posters because they're not mature enough to admit it. They instead continue to double (triple?) down on their own idiocy. They still claim Wilder is ducking AJ. Guess what? He didn't duck him then and he isn't ducking now. And for the millionth time I will say that I believe AJ has the upper hand in a match between him and Wilder. When that fight happens I'm putting money on AJ.

    So let's get this out there. Wilder's pattern isn't ducking and it's actually quite consistent. Instead, Wilder has and continues to bet on himself. He could have taken the guaranteed low-ball money but he's continually doubled down on his ability to bank more later. And that belief has been rewarded as he banks more in each fight. Now he's talking big time numbers. He's like a poker player and his pile of chips has steadily increased. Was this the right time to push them to the middle? It's pretty obvious that he doesn't think so.

    As for my personal take, I'm inclined to believe that the current offers are good. I think we're finally into the ballpark of what is the reasonable market rate. Without knowing any more I probably would have taken it. But I'm not privy to all the offers Wilder has received and I doubt anyone else here is either. It may be that by waiting another 3 months and KOing Breazeale - if he does - could up that offer to $200M over 3-4 fights. We simply don't know what the maximum upside is since undefeated heavyweights historically have always commanded the most money. It could be that by holding out just a few more months and another win both he and Joshua could make money that makes the Floyd-Pac gate look small. If Wilder thinks (or more likely if it's already down on paper) that he could make more by winning his next one and then signing then he's just betting on himself which is what he's done consistently. It could be a smart move or his run at the table could end suddenly and all those potential riches would instantly evaporate. That's the risk he's taking and we'll see if it pays off or whether it's one of the dumbest business decisions in boxing history.
  • Mammoth
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    #2
    I like both guys, neither one is worth writing home over though. Not sure why everybody is crying so hard.

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    • travestyny
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      #3
      Originally posted by Mammoth
      I like both guys, neither one is worth writing home over though. Not sure why everybody is crying so hard.
      It's reaching May/Pac status. The mods are soon going to need to make a sticky thread to contain it.

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      • Curt Henning
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        #4
        dont forget the 12.5 they said was a good deal even though their side refused to guarantee the one stipulation wilder had

        these guys act like they were supposed to fight each other NEXT...but they werent

        wilder can still go to him when hes done with miller

        what hearn and DAZN wont like is that wilders side is going to want half and half of the fighters money for wilder....something AJ's people surely thought was impossible mere months ago....but wilder can get it....but AJs team is going to have to swallow a bitter pill.....they have now shown wilder is worth something.....surely when wilder insists on half they will say "hes only worth that money if hes with us"....because all they were trying to do is reduce their risk

        they arent going to like having to give half to wilder...which is what wilder will ask for after AJ beats miller

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        • Phenom
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          #5
          Originally posted by Mammoth
          I like both guys, neither one is worth writing home over though. Not sure why everybody is crying so hard.
          AJ is a national treasure on par with the gracious Queen her self show some damn respect

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          • Chuckguy
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            #6
            So how much is he making for the bumzeale fight? It ain’t over $20
            Mil or even close to that

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            • Mammoth
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              #7
              Originally posted by travestyny
              It's reaching May/Pac status. The mods are soon going to need to make a sticky thread to contain it.
              It's dumb. I'm sure when the fight gets made (and there's too much money in it to not get made) we'll get an announcement. Everybody needs to chill until then.

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              • Mammoth
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                #8
                Originally posted by Phenom
                AJ is a national treasure on par with the gracious Queen her self show some damn respect


                My bad, man.....

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                • travestyny
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mammoth
                  It's dumb. I'm sure when the fight gets made (and there's too much money in it to not get made) we'll get an announcement. Everybody needs to chill until then.
                  1000% agree with you!

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                  • Curt Henning
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                    #10
                    the AJ fans have taken multiple L's in the "duck game" so far...so much that lennox, froch, parker, fury and khan all admitted it.....so they are desperate to take home a W....so much that they are claiming a duck when both guys had prior fights planned for spring/summer and the DAZN deal had those fights included...lol

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