What PBC, DAZN & ESPN need to do....

[Mammoth]

Plus another 12 on Fox Sports and another 12 on Showtime. That's 34 shows for PBC, plus PPVs. Is there really any doubt PBC is the boxing that will have the most eyeballs watching in the US? Are you guys that biased against PBC that you can't admit simple facts?

For decades, HBO was the leader. Now PBC is the leader. Doesn't mean DAZN can't offer boxing fans tremendous value. For many years HBO had the biggest audience, but SHO was still giving boxing fans tremendous **** for their buck.

How long do you predict DAZN to last?

[MasterPlan]

Average of one per month. Espinosa already said as much and doesn’t like oct/nov and not even sept much

That's true, but with the new deal and budget it calls for a monthly series which Tim Smith explained in a interview when the deal broke.

Jan 12
Feb 9

Are the SHO dates so far that have been mentioned.

Big FOX is not doing any shows in Oct and Nov because of Football.
SHO will because of the new budget.

[Mammoth]

How many cards combined between PBC, Top Rank and DAZN? Like 170 or something crazy?

[MasterPlan]

How many cards combined between PBC, Top Rank and DAZN? Like 170 or something crazy?

PBC has 40+.
Top Rank 30 plus 24 international cards
Matchroom 16 UK + 16 US + 8 Italy + 8 Germany
Golden Boy 12

Add in the ShoBox, WBSS and yeah 170+.

[N/A]

How long do you predict DAZN to last?

DAZN is going to be around a long time. Deep pockets and a very long term plan.

[Fanofreason]

People that think streaming is taking over are in for a rude awakening. DAZN is a complete failure. They already signed Golden Boy because of the Hearn mistake.

[bballchump11]

People that think streaming is taking over are in for a rude awakening. DAZN is a complete failure. They already signed Golden Boy because of the Hearn mistake.

Yeah and it's not like Showtime hasn't already been streaming fights live on their app for years now. And I heard them say that the Fox cards will be available by stream on Fox Go

[Curt Henning]

Yeah and it's not like Showtime hasn't already been streaming fights live on their app for years now. And I heard them say that the Fox cards will be available by stream on Fox Go

try telling that to the uk/hearn fanboys...they talk as if DAZN literally invented the "app"

i have no problem with DAZN...and could care less if they fail/succeed....i hope it works out and they deliver good fights....but the way some of these guys talk its like "dazn an app...showtime might not be able to adapt blah blah blah"...like yo...give me break...showtime had an app for years now lol

[N/A]

try telling that to the uk/hearn fanboys...they talk as if DAZN literally invented the "app"

i have no problem with DAZN...and could care less if they fail/succeed....i hope it works out and they deliver good fights....but the way some of these guys talk its like "dazn an app...showtime might not be able to adapt blah blah blah"...like yo...give me break...showtime had an app for years now lol

On top of that, these ignorant fans kept saying Showtime Boxing was struggling because "ratings" have been down, not realizing Showtime started streaming fights live on their app, which isn't counted by Nielsen.

Meanwhile, HBO continued to refuse to stream their fights live, to keep up appearances in the ratings, while Showtime's subscriber base grew and grew.

Showtime's app has been a smash success, even if it's created the illusion that viewership is down. HBO focused on optics and ended up failing spectacularly, while SHO put their focus on the fan, and won the war in the process.

[rolshans]

Showtime's app has been a smash success

Has it? How many downloads has it had?