What PBC, DAZN & ESPN need to do....

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Actually he may. That's after the Heisman trophy presentation so the numbers will be skewed for that broadcast.

heisman only did 2.18 million viewers last year. so even with the lead in, charlos very likely to beat crawford. but even if they fail to do so due to heisman, there's no doubt the fox pbc average each year will be much higher than the espn tr average, just as the sho average will be much higher than the espn+ average. nobody can touch pbc right now on viewership.

[KTFOKING]

heisman only did 2.18 million viewers last year. so even with the lead in, charlos very likely to beat crawford. but even if they fail to do so due to heisman, there's no doubt the fox pbc average each year will be much higher than the espn tr average, just as the sho average will be much higher than the espn+ average. nobody can touch pbc right now on viewership.

The average will be more correct, but some select TR cards will beat some FOX cards. Like Crawford vs Benavidez averaged over 2.2 million. Not every FOX card is going to out to do that number. And obviously with that card, there was a built in audience with the Alabama football game.

Overall though? For sure FOX will have the best ratings on average.

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The average will be more correct, but some select TR cards will beat some FOX cards. Like Crawford vs Benavidez averaged over 2.2 million. Not every FOX card is going to out to do that number.

A high end ESPN card may be able to compete with a low end PBC card, but Crawford is only going to fight twice a year, one of which will be on ESPN+, so it's going to be tough for him to prop up the ESPN average too much.

TR is going to be a very healthy #2, and going to ESPN was a brilliant move, but PBC will be the clear #1.

[killakali]

But he won't out do what the Charlos do on Fox on 12/22. That's the point. Fox is PBC's equivalent of ESPN and is in WAY MORE HOMES. SHO is PBC's equivalent of ESPN+ and is in WAY MORE HOMES.

Nobody can touch PBC's penetration now. They're head and shoulders above everyone else.

every fox show won’t get better ratings than every espn show.

There have been fox shows barely cracking a million views. All depends on matchups, time slots and competition that night.

Let’s be honest, most of what fox rolled out are not compelling matches. Only Porter-Ugas seems even remotely competitive. Those Charlo fights aren’t going to draw great ratings. Matchups and time slot aren’t conducive to great ratings

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There have been fox shows barely cracking a million views.

Weak cards to burn off the time buys that Fox had little incentive to push hard.

The days of 900k or 1.1 million for Fox PBC shows are over. Fox is going to push these cards hard and every card will have big name headliners. Not every show will crack 2 million, but it'll be close.

[Mammoth]

DAZN is going to be around a long time. Deep pockets and a very long term plan.

What realistic moves can they make to be more successful in the US?

[killakali]

heisman only did 2.18 million viewers last year. so even with the lead in, charlos very likely to beat crawford. but even if they fail to do so due to heisman, there's no doubt the fox pbc average each year will be much higher than the espn tr average, just as the sho average will be much higher than the espn+ average. nobody can touch pbc right now on viewership.

espn will beat showtime on average. Showtime just can’t touch espn on viewers. Showtime fighters won’t have espn exposure. Just won’t touch it.

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espn will beat showtime on average. Showtime just can’t touch espn on viewers. Showtime fighters won’t have espn exposure. Just won’t touch it.

Who the **** cares? You keep trying to steer the conversation back to TR's #1 outlet vs PBC's #3 outlet.

What you're trying to avoid at all costs is comparing ESPN to Fox and ESPN+ to Showtime and/or FS1.

[KTFOKING]

every fox show won’t get better ratings than every espn show.

There have been fox shows barely cracking a million views. All depends on matchups, time slots and competition that night.

Let’s be honest, most of what fox rolled out are not compelling matches. Only Porter-Ugas seems even remotely competitive. Those Charlo fights aren’t going to draw great ratings. Matchups and time slot aren’t conducive to great ratings

Those cards were headlined by who though? Even though some of the match ups aren't great, you will have DSG/Thurman/LSC/Porter headlining. I think the Charlo's card will do solid numbers. Nothing special, but good enough. None of these cards should be close to averaging a million. LSC is the one that may have the closest but even that should do okay numbers.

[killakali]

A high end ESPN card may be able to compete with a low end PBC card, but Crawford is only going to fight twice a year, one of which will be on ESPN+, so it's going to be tough for him to prop up the ESPN average too much.

TR is going to be a very healthy #2, and going to ESPN was a brilliant move, but PBC will be the clear #1.

wrong crawford has three fight dates in 2019