Comments Thread For: Wilder's Manager Doubts Joshua Fight Will Happen in 2019

[Robbie Barrett]

You didn't answer the question. Is Hearn lying about the fight being bigger? The numbers suggest he isn't.

If Klitschko was a bigger draw than Joshua at the time, why was Klitschko the B-side and why did Joshua get the higher split?

The big money is in the US. Klitschko usually struggled in the US. Joshua vs Klitschko wasn't on PPV in the US. Joshua vs Wilder would be on US PPV. It's a bigger fight that will generate more money.

Joshua is a bigger draw now than he was then.

Klitschko was a way bigger draw than Wilder. Not debatable, i don't know why you're being so ****** to even try.

I thought the split was 50/50 for Klitschko-Joshua?

Wilder demanding a rematch clause is another move that causes another problem. Why is a guy that supposedly be desperate for the fight doing that?

[Ray*]

But but but... they want the fight! But but but it’s all Joshua’s fault. Yeah like I said before equal blame on both teams for not making this fight happen.

[Kris Silver]

It's not normal for a 1 belt holder to definitely have a rematch clause against the side with 3/4 belts. Parker didn't, any complaints there?

Finkel actually said they would prefer a rematch clause but will accept the deal offered without it on their side anyway. Why is it now a show stopper?

Hearn would actually entertain exploring a rematch clause on both sides anyway.

What's the next baseless excuse?

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Klitschko was a way bigger draw than Wilder. Not debatable, i don't know why you're being so ****** to even try.

So that's your position? That Hearn is ******? Joshua vs. Wilder generates way more money in the US than Joshua vs. Klitschko and it generates way more money in the UK as well. It's a bigger fight. Everybody agrees on that. Hearn, Finkel, SHO, DAZN, etc. Everyone involved that knows the numbers. So you're saying they're all ******? That the Klitschko fight was bigger? Wilder is already being offered a bigger guarantee than Klitschko was offered. So again, you're saying Hearn is ******?

I thought the split was 50/50 for Klitschko-Joshua?

Okay, well thank you for your thoughts. What were your thoughts based on exactly?

It was 55/45 in AJ's favor btw.

[LacedUp]

That's a lie. The terms Finkel and Wilder accepted were for the fight to be before Povetkin, not after. For the fight to be next. In 2018. Before the new PBC TV deal kicked in.

They were never sent a signed contract for the terms they accepted. They never accepted 2019.

yeah that contract was sent too Conveniently forgotten.

Shelley Finkel needed two weeks to go over the details, and Wilder lost his pen.

You're out here doing damage control, I can see you losing your breath but luckily the public is beginning to see who was at fault for the fight not happening.

And it was definitely not the people who wanted to meet, who sent offers, who sent contracts and who signed contracts.

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It's not normal for a 1 belt holder to definitely have a rematch clause against the side with 3/4 belts. Parker didn't, any complaints there?

It's a much bigger fight than the Parker fight. According to Hearn, it's the biggest fight in UK history.

Finkel actually said they would prefer a rematch clause but will accept the deal offered without it on their side anyway. Why is it now a show stopper?

Because Wilder was willing to do ANYTHING to get the fight this year before the new PBC TV deals kicked in. Flat fee. No rematch. Etc. He agreed to everything. When Hearn still wouldn't do the fight, Wilder said **** it and moved on with his life. He's not going to chase the fight anymore. Either Hearn comes up with a two fight deal with a respectable percentage, or the fight isn't going to happen. Wilder's stock will continue to rise after beating Fury twice.

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yeah that contract was sent too Conveniently forgotten.

Shelley Finkel needed two weeks to go over the details, and Wilder lost his pen.

That's a lie. They were sent a deal with a blank date and Hearn told them he'd send a date in a few days. A few days passed and then Hearn admitted the date was April 2019.

Wilder could have had 900000 pens, he never had an opportunity to sign for a 2018 fight.

[Robbie Barrett]

So that's your position? That Hearn is ******? Joshua vs. Wilder generates way more money in the US than Joshua vs. Klitschko and it generates way more money in the UK as well. It's a bigger fight. Everybody agrees on that. Hearn, Finkel, SHO, DAZN, etc. Everyone involved that knows the numbers. So you're saying they're all ******? That the Klitschko fight was bigger? Wilder is already being offered a bigger guarantee than Klitschko was offered. So again, you're saying Hearn is ******?




Okay, well thank you for your thoughts. What were your thoughts based on exactly?

It was 55/45 in AJ's favor btw.

What's Wilders highest money he's generated fight to date and i'll name 10 Klitschko fights that beat it. Klitschko was a bigger draw than Wilder is. Not debateable, it's a fact.

Lot's of articles reported 50/50. Where you getting 55/45 from?

Why are you choosing to ignore that Joshua is a bigger draw now than he was then?

Why ignore that Wilder is adding more problems to negotiations by asking for rematch clause.

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What's Wilders highest money he's generated fight to date and i'll name 10 Klitschko fights that beat it.

None of which changes that Joshua vs. Wilder is a much bigger fight. Unless you're saying Hearn is lying?

Lot's of articles reported 50/50. Where you getting 55/45 from?

Finkel.

Why are you choosing to ignore that Joshua is a bigger draw now than he was then?

Nobody is dis*****g that. But if Wilder is such a weak B-side, it wouldn't be the biggest fight in world boxing and it wouldn't be the biggest fight in UK history.

[alexjust]

I'm a firm believer that if someone wants something they do it. If they don't, they don't.
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I don't meant to be tactless here, but....hm...what eh...what did you do to make the fight happen in this round of negotiations? What is your offer or counter offer? What proactive steps have you taken to make it happen other than sitting in your ivory tower like a princess waiting for a knight to come and save you? Sooner or later they will fight, AJ should stop pursuing this now and should let it go. Fury is the only fight Wilder can make to raise his profile, after that he will get back to fighting AJ's leftovers. Time is on AJ's side, he gets better with every fight and gains more and more experience. Give it a year and Wilder will come crawling to AJ.