Haymon killing another unification fight?

[Madison Boxing]

Blame for me lies with Crawford, him signing with Arum again confirms he's happy with his comfort zone. That's fair enough but let's not put him as a p4p level fighter if he's not gonna fight anyone. If he fights someone ****e again after this next opponent I'm dropping him off my pound for pound list completely cause I rate it on what someone has done recently and he's done nothing.i though he was moving up to welterweight to test himself , if anything his competition has got worse

[kafkod]

Your uneducated, inexperienced, amateur analysis doesn't make any sense.

Wilder was willing to fight AJ on DAZN on 9/22. Hearn refused to allow it.

By paying the pen fairies to suck all the ink out of Deontay's ball points?

Haymon has the WBC champion, the IBF champion, the WBA champion and most of the top contenders at welterweight.

Arum has the WBO champion and that's about it.

Crawford is the one that chose to stay on the side of the street that has no interesting opponents, instead of crossing the street, where all of the interesting opponents are.

So while Spence, Porter, Thurman, Garcia, Ugas, Berto, Alexander, Broner, etc all fight each other for years to come, and Crawford fights nobody, you can't blame the Haymon side for Crawford not having opponents. He's the one that chose to sign again with the side of the street that had nobody for him to fight.

And there you have the reason why boxing is no longer a mainstream sport in the US, and why PBC on Fox and ESPN is going to get less viewers than a game of women's ice hockey.

[kafkod]

Idk why some of you guys keep acting like Bob Arum is GREAT at making fights with other promoters & with other platforms to suggest this would be Haymon's, Spence's manager/advisor, fault somehow. Any idiot here should know cross promotion events between guys who are or among the biggest names & faces of a promoter or platform RARELY fight between whatever promoter & whatever promoter & when they do happened they've been trying & hard to make cuz those guys have been huge investments for the promoter & its a nice risk for that promoter. You surely know this or you are ******ed.

So C- troll thread or you are ******ed. You choose bruh.

All I heard in that video was a load of excuses from Spence for why he can't fight Crawford and shouldn't need to fight him, even if he could.

[kafkod]

crawford is doing the same by staying with arum who we all know won't let him fight over showtime

Won't let him?

Sounds to me like Haymon and Spence have already decided he isn't going to get a chance to let him.

[koolkc107]

Arum has a long track record of protecting his fighters like investments.

That's why it is common knowledge that the best way for Top Rank fighters to get really big fights is to leave Top Rank.

Smart money says it will be the same with Bud unless a mountain of cash is thrown at the fight.

[chrisJS]

Blame for me lies with Crawford, him signing with Arum again confirms he's happy with his comfort zone. That's fair enough but let's not put him as a p4p level fighter if he's not gonna fight anyone. If he fights someone ****e again after this next opponent I'm dropping him off my pound for pound list completely cause I rate it on what someone has done recently and he's done nothing.i though he was moving up to welterweight to test himself , if anything his competition has got worse

You don't think he has any chance of getting a fight with stablemate Ramirez, who's unbeaten and a good champion? You don't think he has a chance to get the winner of the WBSS who'll be unbeaten, unified with three belts and most likely knocking on the p4p door? If it's Prograis (as odds-makers think so) it will be easy to make as Prograis is affiliated with TR and has a bit of a rivalry with Crawford. If Prograis wins the tournament he's probably a better option than anything not named Spence or Thurman (if he decides he wants to fight again).

It's possible Spence doesn't get any major fights in 2019 also and his list of opposition is the worst bar none of any pound for pound entrant and he's never cleaned our or unified even one division. I think if he let's Thurman/Porter/Garcia keep fighting each other and isn't willing to look into fighting on a Top Rank show being that he's a "free agent" surely some blame and lack of ambition would be pointed at him, no?

Crawford's probably happy with $3m per fight and 3 fights per year vs. I'm sure less in purses and less volume of fights and like I said the potential for opponents isn't that limited outside of the PBC league.

[The Big Dunn]

Arum himself said he isn't going to make the fight until it can do a minimum of 500K buys. So how is Haymon blocking it when Arum himself said he will not make it?

Yup!

Blame for me lies with Crawford, him signing with Arum again confirms he's happy with his comfort zone. That's fair enough but let's not put him as a p4p level fighter if he's not gonna fight anyone. If he fights someone ****e again after this next opponent I'm dropping him off my pound for pound list completely cause I rate it on what someone has done recently and he's done nothing.i though he was moving up to welterweight to test himself , if anything his competition has got worse

Be honest-Would you turn down the huge contract offer in the situation Crawford was in-1 year to go on his contract but TR overpaying him to keep him away from PBC and the money the got from SHO and Fox?

How do you think Bob would promote him had he refused to resign?

[Madison Boxing]

Yup!



Be honest-Would you turn down the huge contract offer in the situation Crawford was in-1 year to go on his contract but TR overpaying him to keep him away from PBC and the money the got from SHO and Fox?

How do you think Bob would promote him had he refused to resign?

No I don't blame him for taking easy money but I don't want to hear about him being this elite p4p fighter if he's not gonna actually prove it and just fighht cans instead. I've seen people saying he could beat prime mayweather lol, who has about 15 better wins than Crawford does

[Madison Boxing]

You don't think he has any chance of getting a fight with stablemate Ramirez, who's unbeaten and a good champion? You don't think he has a chance to get the winner of the WBSS who'll be unbeaten, unified with three belts and most likely knocking on the p4p door? If it's Prograis (as odds-makers think so) it will be easy to make as Prograis is affiliated with TR and has a bit of a rivalry with Crawford. If Prograis wins the tournament he's probably a better option than anything not named Spence or Thurman (if he decides he wants to fight again).

It's possible Spence doesn't get any major fights in 2019 also and his list of opposition is the worst bar none of any pound for pound entrant and he's never cleaned our or unified even one division. I think if he let's Thurman/Porter/Garcia keep fighting each other and isn't willing to look into fighting on a Top Rank show being that he's a "free agent" surely some blame and lack of ambition would be pointed at him, no?

Crawford's probably happy with $3m per fight and 3 fights per year vs. I'm sure less in purses and less volume of fights and like I said the potential for opponents isn't that limited outside of the PBC league.

Not being awkward but genuinely don't know who Ramirez is. As I said to dunn, I don't blame him for wanting easy paydays and an easy life but I'm not rating him alongside fighters who are actually fighting world level guys.

[The Big Dunn]

No I don't blame him for taking easy money but I don't want to hear about him being this elite p4p fighter if he's not gonna actually prove it and just fighht cans instead. I've seen people saying he could beat prime mayweather lol, who has about 15 better wins than Crawford does

dude, Crawford being a top p4p fighter is EXACTLY why Arum made the move he did. This point can't just be overlooked.

Arum is WAY overpaying Crawford at $3 mil a fight and did so when he didn't have to. He saw PBC get the spots and cash and knew if he didn't act Crawford may have jumped ship.

Arum lost hundreds of millions with ODH and Floyd, I don't think he wanted to sit by and watch another major fighter leave like they did.