Haymon killing another unification fight?

[j.razor]

completely agree with this.

Haters tend to....

[The Big Dunn]

Ramirez is huge at JWW, Taylor is very big for the weight too and I don't think Prograis can make it for that much longer either.

I'm not saying he should sit back and fight them all but a natural order would be Ramirez and then the winner of the WBSS. I think that's a good 2019 and though some fans will look at it as "beating smaller men coming up" others will rightly view it as beating accomplished guys of the same size. I think all three of those guys can and will be in the Welterweight mix the next few years.

Understand your point but when there are true WW's that are accomplished at the weight fans get annoyed with those type of fights after a while.

[The Big Dunn]

Maybe talent wise but he doesn't deserve to be considered one based on what he's actually done. If he doesn't intend to actually fight anyone decent then it's disrespectful to rank him above real fighters who take on challenges. That mean machine guy he's lining up to fight next year is straight up trash too.

I understand your point but "challenges" is subjective. He takes on challenges he is just so good that he defeats them with ease. He deserves credit for that.

It seems like because you have an axe to grind with Crawford you are prejudging his opposition.

[killakali]

On Top Rank cards. Where Bob controls everything. He doesn't work with other promoters. He will never allow Haymon to co-promote a Spence-Crawford fight or Crawford to fight on a Haymon card. Fight wont happen.

loma-Linares was and Ramirez-Orozco is a GBP co promo

[Eff Pandas]

All I heard in that video was a load of excuses from Spence for why he can't fight Crawford and shouldn't need to fight him, even if he could.

You are talking about Haymon stopping the fight doe. Like Haymon has his hand up a drunk Spence's ass moving his lips as he sees fit.

And most importantly like I said WE ALL KNOW these types of fights are hard as f#ck to make cuz none of these mfers bend like we as fans think they should so acting like any one thing or one person is stopping a Bud vs Spence fight is a ******ed stance to have & YOU KNOW THAT.

[j.razor]

Your uneducated, inexperienced, amateur analysis doesn't make any sense.

Wilder was willing to fight AJ on DAZN on 9/22. Hearn refused to allow it.

Haymon has the WBC champion, the IBF champion, the WBA champion and most of the top contenders at welterweight.

Arum has the WBO champion and that's about it.

Crawford is the one that chose to stay on the side of the street that has no interesting opponents, instead of crossing the street, where all of the interesting opponents are.

So while Spence, Porter, Thurman, Garcia, Ugas, Berto, Alexander, Broner, etc all fight each other for years to come, and Crawford fights nobody, you can't blame the Haymon side for Crawford not having opponents. He's the one that chose to sign again with the side of the street that had nobody for him to fight.

That says it all! And I like Bud.

[j.razor]

Originally Posted by WBC WBA IBF
Your uneducated, inexperienced, amateur analysis doesn't make any sense.

Wilder was willing to fight AJ on DAZN on 9/22. Hearn refused to allow it.

Haymon has the WBC champion, the IBF champion, the WBA champion and most of the top contenders at welterweight.

Arum has the WBO champion and that's about it.

Crawford is the one that chose to stay on the side of the street that has no interesting opponents, instead of crossing the street, where all of the interesting opponents are.

So while Spence, Porter, Thurman, Garcia, Ugas, Berto, Alexander, Broner, etc all fight each other for years to come, and Crawford fights nobody, you can't blame the Haymon side for Crawford not having opponents. He's the one that chose to sign again with the side of the street that had nobody for him to fight.

Are Berto and Alexander really more interesting than Ramirez, Prograis or the winner of the 140 WBSS? I think Top Rank would have an easy time making Crawford-Ramirez, Crawford-Prograis, Crawford-Taylor (if he can win the WBSS). Sure, they are at 140 but they will be at 147 soon enough.

Are Ugas and Broner more interesting? Ugas has less of a name then those guys and Broner wouldn't be an interesting match really. He gets dominated by anyone elite.

You bringing in some sorry a*s names to make a weak a*s debate....LMMFAO! Face dude, you just flat out straight lying a*s Twinky.

[j.razor]

It made no sense for Crawford to sign and extension with Arum. I do not know what Arum says to these fighters, but they can never get out of his contracts.

Take his a*s to court like everyone else & have more money & a better career. Leave bob with Don King.

[j.razor]

He's getting a minimum guarantee of $3m per fight and can fight as often as he likes. He'll be fighting three times a year barring injuries.

That's a great guarantee and like I said earlier it's not like the winner of the WBSS (probably Prograis or Taylor) won't be a star and great opponent or Ramirez if he keeps winning. Those will be easy to make.

But you talk shet bout PBC Fighters? You a*s backward mutha-***a.

[satiev1]

Listen to Errol Spence coming up with all kinds of reasons and excuses for not fighting Crawford, just like Wilder did with AJ.

Sounds like typical Al Haymon bullshit to me, killing a fight because he's scared of his guy losing to somebody with a rival promoter.

If it was thurman he'd be jumping for the fight.