Haymon killing another unification fight?

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are you the wbc wba or ibf today?

You only ask that when my argument is so solid you desperately need to change the subject.

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Another lie:

Nobody is deflecting. Sorry you don't like the facts. Not even Hearn is claiming what you're claiming. Finkel said there was never a contract for a 2018 fight. Hearn has never said otherwise. Only you say otherwise.

The truth:

Hearn has said multiple times, via multiple public platforms, that he sent Wilder a contract for a fight in Oct/Nov this year, on the same terms that Wilder had already verbally agreed to.

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Wilder doesn't have a contract with them. Stop posting false information.




No, he didn't refute what Espinoza said. This is the problem over and over. You don't actually know how to read. The things I write, the things others write, your brain fills in the blanks and reads what it wants to read.

Espinoza confirmed Hearn was sent a term sheet. HEARN DIDN'T REFUTE THAT. Please show us where he refuted that? You can't. Hearn, being the master manipulator that he is, CHANGED THE SUBJECT, and said he wasn't sent a contract. Which is true. Because in boxing, you don't send a contract until a term sheet has been agreed to.

Hearn could have very easily denied receiving a term sheet. But he didn't deny it. Espinoza was clearly telling the truth.

Hearn didn't need to deny recieving a term sheet for the $50million offer, because Finkel himself put out a public statement saying that AJ needed to accept the offer first, and only then would he allow Hearn to see the details.

Because, according to Shelley, "it wouldn't be productive" to send Hearn the details of the offer - unless AJ had already agreed to them!

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There was no need to lie about anything. Ryabinsky knew Hearn was negotiating with both sides to try to get the best deal possible and knew Povetkin was Hearn's preference. What is there to sue over? You're not making any sense. You have no experience in boxing and no experience in the legal system. You're just a random idiot on the internet.

I have more experience in boxing than a keyboard rat like you will ever have, son.

And I don't need any experience in the legal system to know that if Wilder had signed that contract, Hearn would have had 2 choices:

Either have AJ fight Wilder next .. or publicly admit that he'd been lying to everybody concerned, and never had any intention of staging the fight this year.

And after that, Barry Hearn would be looking for someone else to run his business for him.

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So Hearn was either being sneaky, or is completely incompetent, because the contract he sent conveniently left out any language whatsoever that would bound him to doing the fight next. And when he was asked to add language guaranteeing the fight would be next, he refused.

I'm asking you for the third time to show us some evidence to back up what you're saying there ..

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Another lie:



The truth:

Hearn has said multiple times, via multiple public platforms, that he sent Wilder a contract for a fight in Oct/Nov this year, on the same terms that Wilder had already verbally agreed to.

Hahahaha, please show us where Hearn claimed he sent a contract that mentioned Oct/Nov IN THE CONTRACT. He's never said that. He's never denied that the contract didn't guarantee the fight would be next.

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I'm asking you for the third time to show us some evidence to back up what you're saying there ..

You can ask 500 times if you want. Finkel's been very clear that there was never a contract guaranteeing the fight was next and Hearn has been very careful to never refute that. Hearn has conceded the point every time.

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I have more experience in boxing than a keyboard rat like you will ever have, son.

I've made my full time living in the fight game since the late 1990s. What are your credentials? I negotiate fights every day of my life. What are your credentials? I've worked for fighters, I've worked for promoters, I've worked for networks, I've worked as a media member. What are your credentials?

And I don't need any experience in the legal system to know that if Wilder had signed that contract, Hearn would have had 2 choices:

Either have AJ fight Wilder next .. or publicly admit that he'd been lying to everybody concerned, and never had any intention of staging the fight this year.

The contract was incomplete. Signing it would be meaningless. Wilder wasn't even being asked to sign it, he was being asked to wait a few days while Hearn finalized a date. If Wilder had signed, Hearn would still have the WBA write the letter and use the same excuse. AJ's fans clearly don't care about the facts. If anything, it just boosts Hearn's current position.

"The mandatory was overdue, but we're ready to fight in April. The contract is signed by Wilder is refusing to honor it. Clearly he doesn't want the fight." etc etc. Hearn will never have to admit he's lying because the AJ sheep believe anything he says.

If he wanted the fight this year, he would have sent a contract saying the fight would be this year. Very simple.

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Hearn didn't need to deny recieving a term sheet for the $50million offer, because Finkel himself put out a public statement saying that AJ needed to accept the offer first, and only then would he allow Hearn to see the details.

Because, according to Shelley, "it wouldn't be productive" to send Hearn the details of the offer - unless AJ had already agreed to them!

Now you're changing your position. First you said Hearn refuted that he was sent a term sheet. That was a lie. Caught in a blatant lie, you're trying to completely reinvent your argument. Why did you choose to lie? Why did you say Hearn refuted when you know he didn't?

You don't send a contract when the term sheet hasn't been agreed to in principle. This is the problem. You know absolutely nothing about how boxing works and you think you know everything.

Until the two sides have a mutual understanding on the major points, you don't send a contract with the minor points. Hearn didn't sent Wilder a contract until Wilder accepted the term sheet. That is how things go in boxing. Hearn convinced the AJ sheep Wilder didn't want the fight because he didn't send a contract without Hearn giving his blessing to the term sheet, yet Hearn himself didn't send a contract until Wilder gave his blessing to the term sheet.

So Hearn's own actions show Hearn is lying.

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Hahahaha, please show us where Hearn claimed he sent a contract that mentioned Oct/Nov IN THE CONTRACT. He's never said that. He's never denied that the contract didn't guarantee the fight would be next.

You can ask 500 times if you want. Finkel's been very clear that there was never a contract guaranteeing the fight was next and Hearn has been very careful to never refute that. Hearn has conceded the point every time.

You are dodging the issue by shifting from one assertion to another, as if they both meant the same thing.

Hearn has never denied that the contract didn't have a date. But you are saying he refused to add language gauranteeing the fight would be next when asked to do so. I'm saying that's a lie.