honest question for AJ fans

[juggernaut666]

AGAIN...

Why did Finkel run on social media stating he's sending the contract back unsigned knowing the WBA was on Hearns back?

How come absolutely no one was able to answer my thread, which was why does Wilder need a rematch Claus if he thinks he will win?

[SAINTSTEVE]

AGAIN...

Why did Finkel run on social media stating he's sending the contract back unsigned knowing the WBA was on Hearns back?

How come absolutely no one was able to answer my thread, which was why does Wilder need a rematch Claus if he thinks he will win?

I can give an answer which is that the judges may give the W to the wrong guy.

[QueensburyRules]

for AJ fans who believe wilder was hearn's preference to be AJ's next opponent, why do you believe that? considering how much money AJ will make for an easier fight, what business incentive would there be for hearn to want to rush straight to the wilder fight?

i think we all agree AJ is the clear A-side and can make big money against anybody. so what would the logic be in wanting to face a dangerous puncher next instead of waiting a little longer?

--- Josh obviously the A side fighter.

Problem being Deyonce being the unproven D side fighter asking for A side parity. Poor boy needs to fight another of his trademark TBAs for peanuts to reinforce his lesser worth.

[kafkod]

If I were the promoter I probably would schedule it for April 2019 tbh but I would work it out with the other side already like when Pacquiao and Morales both had tuneups before their rematch (which Morales lost his tuneup to Zahir Raheem btw proving things don't always go as planned).

It could be that's what they are doing behind the scenes. It would be a risky strategy though, when one of the "tune-ups" is an Olympic gold medalist with only one defeat in 35 fights, ranked 3rd best HW in the world by Ring magazine.

[juggernaut666]

I can give an answer which is that the judges may give the W to the wrong guy.

Wilder going to out box Joshua ? Lol

Not even most Wilder fans believe that...He's going to need a K.O to win!

[Phenom]

AGAIN...

Why did Finkel run on social media stating he's sending the contract back unsigned knowing the WBA was on Hearns back?

How come absolutely no one was able to answer my thread, which was why does Wilder need a rematch Claus if he thinks he will win?

1. WBA can't do **** other than order a purse bid

2. Wilder doesn’t need a rematch clause the 50M offer did not have a rematch clause they clearly said both guys should have it or no one


Hope that answers your question

[Scipio2009]

for AJ fans who believe wilder was hearn's preference to be AJ's next opponent, why do you believe that? considering how much money AJ will make for an easier fight, what business incentive would there be for hearn to want to rush straight to the wilder fight?

i think we all agree AJ is the clear A-side and can make big money against anybody. so what would the logic be in wanting to face a dangerous puncher next instead of waiting a little longer?

I'm a fan of both guys, and I'm not all the way sure that Hearn really wanted the fight next, but the thinking was likely rather straightforward; Joshua had to fight Wilder or Povetkin next, both fights at Wembley draw comparable money, and, most crucially, Joshua winning the double (beat Wilder at Wembley, beat Wilder at T-Mobile) would give Joshua a real shot at earning a billion dollars for his career (a heavyweight at all of 28 years of age and Wilder being the only fighter really matching Joshua's ability level, he can basically fight three times a year for as long as he wants; big UK fight, big US PPV event, and a third fight as a true traveling champion).

Risk is risk, but both guys were dangerous, the money is likely the same for both, but Wilder puts Joshua in position for unheard of growth, so you pick Wilder.

Wilder's camp coming up with an event that guarantees Joshua $50m drastically changed the calculus. Hearn/Joshua talked so much mess that the couldn't simply back out of the fight, so they had to do the kabuki theatre.

With the fights no longer being the same value, if Hearn is dealing in good faith, the path is clear; take the Povetkin fight first, have the Wilder fight in April (fight could end up live on CBS, before re-airing in the evening on Showtime), and then have Joshua-Wilder 2 from Las Vegas the last Saturday of the summer in August.

Joshua wins those three fights, and he's the unquestioned undisputed heavyweight champion, is likely looking at a Pulev fight next (I think Joshua beats Pulev), and the door is then opened for Joshua to fight Tyson Fury in a blockbuster (I don't think that Fury will ever get back on form, and that was the only chance he had).

[SAINTSTEVE]

Wilder going to out box Joshua ? Lol

Not even most Wilder fans believe that...He's going to need a K.O to win!

I was pointing to the fact that judges in boxing get it wrong sometimes. You don't have to outbox someone to win a decision. He could hurt him early and never fully recover to win the rounds, for example.
Every time there is a big fight, fans act like it will go exactly like everybody expects it to, which in my mind is an indication of someone who is new to the sport and so they expect the favorite always wins. Boxers themselves fall into this trap by "buying into their own hype".
Lennox Lewis said that Wilder and Joshua are largely learning as pros and therefore the person you think will win, will not necessarily be the person who will win. This man should know no? And maybe Joshua will win, he's going to have to if he wants to claim this era as his own. There are no shortcuts to greatness!!!

[juggernaut666]

I was pointing to the fact that judges in boxing get it wrong sometimes. You don't have to outbox someone to win a decision. He could hurt him early and never fully recover to win the rounds, for example.
Every time there is a big fight, fans act like it will go exactly like everybody expects it to, which in my mind is an indication of someone who is new to the sport and so they expect the favorite always wins. Boxers themselves fall into this trap by "buying into their own hype".
Lennox Lewis said that Wilder and Joshua are largely learning as pros and therefore the person you think will win, will not necessarily be the person who will win. This man should know no? And maybe Joshua will win, he's going to have to if he wants to claim this era as his own. There are no shortcuts to greatness!!!

Im not concerned what Lewis knows bc hes wrong half the time .

And so are the Furys who are smarter than him with boxing ins and outs !

Your not going to throw 2 punches at a time and have poor technical hooks with no tactical clinching with open defense and defeat Joshua in a boxing match .

Joshua is the one improving not Wilder , Lewis claim has zero to do with the ability to see who should win so the point there fighting at is irrelevant, in this case its in Joshua favor and MOST knowledgeable ppl know he should win even if they wont directly say it on camera !

As far as having to fight Wilder to claim his era ?


Well ask Lewis if he was the dominant fighter of the 90's even though he never fought Bowe ? See what double standard you get there since that guy also thinks Joshua should have moved a little quicker on his resume. lol

[juggernaut666]

1. WBA can't do **** other than order a purse bid

2. Wilder doesn’t need a rematch clause the 50M offer did not have a rematch clause they clearly said both guys should have it or no one


Hope that answers your question

Once again you have ZERO clue what you're talking about .

There are no purse bids .

The WBA can strip Joshua if the opponent is unwilling to fight and nothing signed and Joshua proceeds with ignoring their mandatory .


Wilder apparently DID need a rematch claus bc the 15 Million he AGREED to didnt have one thereforehe did not sign !

I hope that answers your questions !