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  • abracada
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    #11
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    for AJ fans who believe wilder was hearn's preference to be AJ's next opponent, why do you believe that? considering how much money AJ will make for an easier fight, what business incentive would there be for hearn to want to rush straight to the wilder fight?

    i think we all agree AJ is the clear A-side and can make big money against anybody. so what would the logic be in wanting to face a dangerous puncher next instead of waiting a little longer?
    Johnson is scared

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      #12
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
      for AJ fans who believe wilder was hearn's preference to be AJ's next opponent, why do you believe that?
      Asking the WBA for almost 2 months extension to put off his due mandatory seems the logical place to start.

      If you say the plan all along was to fight Wilder in April then you are essentially accusing Matchroom of defrauding the WBA, Povetkins promoters, TV networks etc.

      A pretty bold claim.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Drama Show
        he's(Wilder) not really much more dangerous than povetkin.

        ???

        You do know that many of Pov's KOs were against fighters at the end of their careers (Byrd, Rahman) and B-rate fighters (Charr, Perez, Wach), and he still only has a 69% KO rating compared to 98% for Wilder.

        Pov's more fundamentally sound, but not very fast or explosive, so yes, Wilder is "much more dangerous".

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        • SAINTSTEVE
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          #14
          Do the sanctioning bodies really want for the belts to be unified? Because it looked to me like negotiations were progressing although at a snail's pace when the WBA intervened. One thing I can't understand though is why the promoters are such buffoons that they can't get a fight made if they really wanted to.

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          • kafkod
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            #15
            Whether Hearn really wanted the fight next is a question that nobody can answer without being able to read his mind. But the facts are that, whether he wanted to do it or was pushed into it, Hearn sent Wilder a contract to fight AJ next on terms that had already been verbally accepted, and Wilder didn't sign it.

            People who say the contract was really for a fight in April 2019 are talking nonsense. That would have been negotiating in bad faith on Hearn's part, so the contract would have been worthless and Hearn would have likely been sued by the Russians for keeping Povetkin dangling in limbo for over a month under false pretences. Time is money in professional sports.
            Last edited by kafkod; 07-06-2018, 05:41 PM.

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            • SAINTSTEVE
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              #16
              I'm sure Hearn probably weighed the pros and cons bc that's his job but it was ultimately Joshua's purse he was ******** with because he could lose his belts to Povetkin and Hearn will still have a job after that.

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                #17
                Originally posted by SAINTSTEVE
                Do the sanctioning bodies really want for the belts to be unified? Because it looked to me like negotiations were progressing although at a snail's pace when the WBA intervened. One thing I can't understand though is why the promoters are such buffoons that they can't get a fight made if they really wanted to.
                Maybe they didn't really want to .. neither of them.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by club fighter
                  ???

                  You do know that many of Pov's KOs were against fighters at the end of their careers (Byrd, Rahman) and B-rate fighters (Charr, Perez, Wach), and he still only has a 69% KO rating compared to 98% for Wilder.

                  Pov's more fundamentally sound, but not very fast or explosive, so yes, Wilder is "much more dangerous".
                  You are forgetting one punch KO's of Takam and Duhaupus, who both went 10 rounds in their fights with AJ and Wilder and finished on their feet.

                  A 98% KO ratio against the kind of opposition Wilder has been fighting doesn't mean anything.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    Maybe they didn't really want to .. neither of them.
                    If I were the promoter I probably would schedule it for April 2019 tbh but I would work it out with the other side already like when Pacquiao and Morales both had tuneups before their rematch (which Morales lost his tuneup to Zahir Raheem btw proving things don't always go as planned).

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                    • kafkod
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by EnglishOxide
                      Asking the WBA for almost 2 months extension to put off his due mandatory seems the logical place to start.

                      If you say the plan all along was to fight Wilder in April then you are essentially accusing Matchroom of defrauding the WBA, Povetkins promoters, TV networks etc.

                      A pretty bold claim.
                      The idea that a man in Hearn's postion would even think about trying to pull a stunt like that is laughable.

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