Comments Thread For: Golovkin, Hopkins, Monzon: The Record at Middleweight

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  • markther
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    #151
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    nah

    you are just one of the silly casual-fans who love Golovkin sooooo much that you are willing to embarrass yourself

    how can the WBA have three " champions " all making title defences at the same time?

    smarten up..... the justification for the WBA having three champions is greed, not ******ity
    I don’t like GGG at all, never did. But I just state objective facts instead of floating dumb ass theories out there to justify who I don’t like or like, unlike your ****** ass & some of the other losers on here-LOL!!!

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    • markther
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      #152
      Originally posted by DreamFighter
      he won the title in 2014 by promotion, his first recognised title.

      he has 8 or 9.
      Your the undisputed dummy, that’s all you are. Your argument doesn’t make sense; it’s a theory job made up in your little dumb ass mind. GGG “on record” not what you “think” has held a title in the middleweight division since he won the 1st won in 2010. And he has successfully defended at least one title continuously up until now his 20th title defense. No one gives a damn what you think of how he got there. The only thing that matters is what is on paper as fact and record. And you can make that silly argument for a bunch of boxers over the last few decades. That’s why you sound ******ed which you probably are-LOL!!!

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        #153
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        1) Hopkins beat champions for his titles, Golovkin did not

        2) Hopkins did not defend lower/junior titles, like Golovkin did

        3) Hopkins did not duck his mando to break Monzon's record..... like Golovkin ducked his mando to break Hopkins record

        4) Hopkins did not avoid mover/spoilers, like Golovkin did

        5) I think that Golovkin is a total fkn hypejob, who has tip-toed through the tulips for his entire career..... relying on hype and bullshht excuses..... dude, he just ducked a 10-fight rookie because the guy was "too risky"

        those guys are clearly not cut from the same cloth man

        there is light and day between Hopkins and Golovkin..... both at 160, and as a fighter..... not even close

        edit: when I say, total hypejob..... I mean that Golovkin is a very good fighter..... but he is a protected network darling who has benefited from some very soft matchmaking, and has avoided anything even close to a risk (especially mover/spoilers) while tip-toeing through the tulips refusing to life a finger to make HUGE fights with guys like Cotto/Ward/Saunders/etc
        1. Is that the fighters fault whether the titles they are chasing are held by a champion or are vacant? 2. What do you mean by lower titles? 3. Are you speaking of charlo as the mando? You really think that the magnitude of that fight should be signed and agreed to within a month since the canelo fight fell out? You should know better than that. 4. Who are these middle weight movers or spoilers you speak of? Who are the middle weights that ggg avoided because they moved around alot? 5. I will acknowledge he's benefitted from a weak era, much like klitchko did but that's not their fault. Hopkins had a weak defense record for yrs until tito stepped up. Before tito, none of Hopkins opponents at the time were considered to be far above what lemieux was. If you really think that the reason why ggg vs cotto or lemieux didn't happen is GGG's fault then you're just biased. As far as ward, ggg definitely didn't want that fight.

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        • Robbie Barrett
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          #154
          Originally posted by markther
          Your the undisputed dummy, that’s all you are. Your argument doesn’t make sense; it’s a theory job made up in your little dumb ass mind. GGG “on record” not what you “think” has held a title in the middleweight division since he won the 1st won in 2010. And he has successfully defended at least one title continuously up until now his 20th title defense. No one gives a damn what you think of how he got there. The only thing that matters is what is on paper as fact and record. And you can make that silly argument for a bunch of boxers over the last few decades. That’s why you sound ******ed which you probably are-LOL!!!
          The WBA titles go.

          1.Super
          2.Regular
          3.Interim

          The super is the recognised champion, if there's no super then it's the regular. Sturm was the super champ while Golovkin was the regular. So Sturm was the WBA champion not Golovkin.

          Use your little brain.

          Boxing fans cry about too many titles, but then want to have 2 or 3 for each org when it suits them.

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          • just the facts
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            #155
            Originally posted by kafkod
            Both prime Hagler and prime GGG would have beaten prime Bhop. They would have been 50/50 against each other. And I'm a big Hagler fan, btw.
            Not many would share your opinion of Hagler/ggg being a 50/50 fight. Just can’t see ggg ever beating Hagler.

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              #156
              The record means very little. It isn’t as if any of these guys would likely beat prime Hagler, so who cares how much fodder these fellows cut through?

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              • markther
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                #157
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                The WBA titles go.

                1.Super
                2.Regular
                3.Interim

                The super is the recognised champion, if there's no super then it's the regular. Sturm was the super champ while Golovkin was the regular. So Sturm was the WBA champion not Golovkin.

                Use your little brain.

                Boxing fans cry about too many titles, but then want to have 2 or 3 for each org when it suits them.
                Dumb Ass, GGG still had some version of a middleweight title since 2010. It doesn’t matter which one is more recognized than the other. How do you sound? You just made my argument with your little brain and nonsense. You should delete your post, you sound regarded trying to justify YOUR “brainless” theory. If your the super or regular champion or interim, you still have a middleweight title little d... s....!!! LOL!!!

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                • kafkod
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  The WBA titles go.

                  1.Super
                  2.Regular
                  3.Interim

                  The super is the recognised champion, if there's no super then it's the regular. Sturm was the super champ while Golovkin was the regular. So Sturm was the WBA champion not Golovkin.

                  Use your little brain.

                  Boxing fans cry about too many titles, but then want to have 2 or 3 for each org when it suits them.
                  Boxing fans cry about too many titles, but support an org altering their rules to introduce a new "super" title and having 2 world titles instead of one - when it suits them.

                  Golovkin was No1 contender for the universally recognised WBA title for 2 years. And he won the interim title, which entitled him to a shot at the universally recognised WBA world title.

                  But instead of giving him the shot he earned, the WBA changed their rules, conjoured a new "super" title out of nowhere, and told GGG he was now the "regular" champion.

                  It later came out that they had been bribed to do that by Felix Sturm and his promoter.

                  Imagine the outcry there would have been here if the WBA had created a new super duper title, and had GGG fight Daniel Geale for it, instead of telling him to defend his super title against Jacobs!

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by markther
                    Dumb Ass, GGG still had some version of a middleweight title since 2010. It doesn’t matter which one is more recognized than the other. How do you sound? You just made my argument with your little brain and nonsense. You should delete your post, you sound regarded trying to justify YOUR “brainless” theory. If your the super or regular champion or interim, you still have a middleweight title little d... s....!!! LOL!!!
                    You believe what you want ******. Real boxing fans will count 4 world titles. Even that is too many. ******s like you can count all the minor ones and have 8-12 world titles. Because you want to be a fanboy.

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                    • kafkod
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      The WBA titles go.

                      1.Super
                      2.Regular
                      3.Interim

                      The super is the recognised champion, if there's no super then it's the regular. Sturm was the super champ while Golovkin was the regular. So Sturm was the WBA champion not Golovkin.

                      Use your little brain.

                      Boxing fans cry about too many titles, but then want to have 2 or 3 for each org when it suits them.
                      Boxing fans cry about too many titles, but support an org altering their rules to introduce a new "super" title and having 2 world titles instead of one - when it suits them.

                      Golovkin was No1 contender for the universally recognised WBA title for 2 years. And he won the interim title, which entitled him to a shot at the universally recognised WBA world title.

                      But instead of giving him the shot he earned, the WBA changed their rules, conjoured a new "super" title out of nowhere, and told GGG he was now the "regular" champion, and had no right to fight for the super title.

                      It later came out that they had been bribed to do that by Felix Sturm and his promoter.

                      Imagine the outcry there would have been here if the WBA had created a new super duper title, and had GGG fight Spike O'Sullivan for it, instead of telling him to defend his super title against Jacobs!

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