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  • Scipio2009
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    #101
    Originally posted by juggernaut666
    Wilder cant make over 12 Million unless the fight is a guaranteed 60 PLUS Million dollar fight bc they have other expenses then giving Joshua 50 Million .

    Wilder would make 35 Million with Hearns deal ....


    You're to much of a ****** to comprehend this !
    How does Deontay Wilder make $35m on Eddie Hearn's deal? lol

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    • champion4ever
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      #102
      The trouble with Matchroom boxing in general and the Hearn's in particular is that they are too myopic in their thinking. They need to expand and broaden their horizon and view.

      They have to understand that boxing is a global sport not just a regional one. They are only looking at the U.K. market. However, boxing extends far beyond the confines of the island of Great Britain. There are boxing markets all over the earth that have a demand for this fight and not just in the U.K.

      Team Wilder gets this but apparently team Joshua does not.

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      • kafkod
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        #103
        Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
        Wrong on both accounts again.

        Hearn himself said that he just doesn't want to look like a schmuck if he backs out for a reason like location or sponsorship. That isn't a NEED, that's a WANT. Exact quote “If we accept their offer and then don’t go through with the fight because we’re not happy, then we look like shmucks."


        Finkel stated that once Hearn agreed to the financials, he would provide the proof of funds and a contract. He did not say he would NOT TALK. Exact quote "If Anthony agrees to accept our offer, we will be glad to supply you with a contract, proof of funds and any other relevant data needed to complete the contract."

        How about you face those facts!
        So Hearn has explained why he doesn't want to agree to the offer without knowing the details of what he is agreeing to.

        But Finkel has not explained why he won't show Hearn the details unless he accepts the offer first.

        In either case, whether Hearn sees the details before or after he agrees to the offer, Finkel is going to have to write them down and show them to him, because Hearn isn't going to sign a contract that just says, "AJ is guaranteed $50million" and then let Finkel fill in the terms afterwards!

        So why doesn't he just stop wasting everybody's time and give Hearn the details now?

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        • kafkod
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          #104
          Originally posted by champion4ever
          The trouble with Matchroom boxing in general and the Hearn's in particular is that they are too myopic in their thinking. They need to expand and broaden their horizon and view.

          They have to understand that boxing is a global sport not just a regional one. They are only looking at the U.K. market. However, boxing extends far beyond the confines of the island of Great Britain. There are boxing markets all over the earth that have a demand for this fight and not just in the U.K.

          Team Wilder gets this but apparently team Joshua does not.
          Because they won't agree to an offer without knowing the terms first?

          That's not the way business is done, in the UK, USA, or anywhere else on earth.

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            #105
            Originally posted by kafkod
            Wilder's promoter: "You don't make fights by sending emails. Fights get made by negotiating. Just because that muthafukker says shit on twitter .. that doesn't mean anything"
            And this should end the discussion.

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              #106
              Originally posted by champion4ever
              The trouble with Matchroom boxing in general and the Hearn's in particular is that they are too myopic in their thinking. They need to expand and broaden their horizon and view.

              They have to understand that boxing is a global sport not just a regional one. They are only looking at the U.K. market. However, boxing extends far beyond the confines of the island of Great Britain. There are boxing markets all over the earth that have a demand for this fight and not just in the U.K.

              Team Wilder gets this but apparently team Joshua does not.
              Oh boy you are ******ed

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              • kafkod
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                #107
                Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                Not sure how an email, sent to Joshua and Hearn turns into a social media offer. Are you confused about the facts?

                As for canceling the meeting, I saw no reason to cancel it, recognizing that during that meeting no details were going to be given out until a verbal agreement on the financial arrangement was reached. However, I don't think cancelling that meeting got them any further or closer to making the fight considering that Team Wilder wants to hold the details on how they plan to make the fight worth guaranteeing Joshua $50M close to their vest.

                If I were Team Wilder, my position is, I'm not guaranteeing you $50M and then letting you pick the location, the sponsors, or the date. Those things have a direct correlation on revenue and I'm going to control the revenue streams if I'm assuming the financial risk in the fight.
                Hearn isn't asking Finkel to give him $50million and control of the fight .. he just wants to know the terms of the offer, ffs!

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Boksfan
                  Oh boy you are ******ed
                  The only ******ed ones I can think of are the Hearn's and their gullible fans like you into believing that this fight can't sell outside of the U.K. Market. Somebody ought to teach Eddie how to promote a major boxing event because right now he is using an outdated business model. You just don't generate boxing revenue from the live gate but through PPV cable television, close circuit, social media and other media avenues as well.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    So Hearn has explained why he doesn't want to agree to the offer without knowing the details of what he is agreeing to.

                    But Finkel has not explained why he won't show Hearn the details unless he accepts the offer first.

                    In either case, whether Hearn sees the details before or after he agrees to the offer, Finkel is going to have to write them down and show them to him, because Hearn isn't going to sign a contract that just says, "AJ is guaranteed $50million" and then let Finkel fill in the terms afterwards!

                    So why doesn't he just stop wasting everybody's time and give Hearn the details now?
                    I guess that you're assuming that because Finkel hasn't gone public with his reasons for wanting a financial agreement before showing things such as A) who the investors are B) where the fight will be, that he doesn't have a legit reasoning. I won't assume to know what that reasoning is, but I can think of a few (leverage, promotional strategy). My thing is, there is absolutely no reason why Team Wilder has to make Hearns job as Joshua's promoter and brand manager easy. They are not obligated to be concerned with Joshua's sponsorships or his preferred fight location when they are offering a $50M guarantee.

                    In this instance, what Hearn said he was going to do, is the best recourse. Call and see what details can be divulged. If he cannot make a decision after getting the details that can be divulged, he should just say no, and make a counter offer. Nothing is stopping him from making a counter offer.

                    Lastly, NO ONE has asked Hearn to sign anything before he agrees to the financial arrangement. All they have asked for is his word.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by champion4ever
                      The trouble with Matchroom boxing in general and the Hearn's in particular is that they are too myopic in their thinking. They need to expand and broaden their horizon and view.

                      They have to understand that boxing is a global sport not just a regional one. They are only looking at the U.K. market. However, boxing extends far beyond the confines of the island of Great Britain. There are boxing markets all over the earth that have a demand for this fight and not just in the U.K.

                      Team Wilder gets this but apparently team Joshua does not.

                      What are you talking about?

                      Joshuas' last fight was televised in about 190 countries. Over 95% of the world have access to his fights.

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