Comments Thread For: Hearn Cautions That Joshua-Wilder Has 2-3 Weeks To Get Done

[Ake-Dawg]

Are you being deliberately ******? Is playing the idiot preferable to facing the facts, if the facts don't fit your agenda?

All Hearn is saying is that he needs to know the details of the offer before he can agree to it, but Wilder's team won't talk to him.

And I know he is telling the truth because Finkel himself said the same thing: "Have AJ accept the offer first .. then we'll talk to you."

Bullsheeeet!

Wrong on both accounts again.

Hearn himself said that he just doesn't want to look like a schmuck if he backs out for a reason like location or sponsorship. That isn't a NEED, that's a WANT. Exact quote “If we accept their offer and then don’t go through with the fight because we’re not happy, then we look like shmucks."


Finkel stated that once Hearn agreed to the financials, he would provide the proof of funds and a contract. He did not say he would NOT TALK. Exact quote "If Anthony agrees to accept our offer, we will be glad to supply you with a contract, proof of funds and any other relevant data needed to complete the contract."

How about you face those facts!

[Ake-Dawg]

In other words, it was a social media offer.

Hearn, Haymon and Deas already had a meeting scheduled to negotiate making the fight, and Hearn had flown over to States expecting that he was going to talk with them.

Why cancel the meeting? How is that supposed to be a constructive move?

Wilder's promoter: "You don't make fights by sending emails. Fights get made by negotiating"

Not sure how an email, sent to Joshua and Hearn turns into a social media offer. Are you confused about the facts?

As for canceling the meeting, I saw no reason to cancel it, recognizing that during that meeting no details were going to be given out until a verbal agreement on the financial arrangement was reached. However, I don't think cancelling that meeting got them any further or closer to making the fight considering that Team Wilder wants to hold the details on how they plan to make the fight worth guaranteeing Joshua $50M close to their vest.

If I were Team Wilder, my position is, I'm not guaranteeing you $50M and then letting you pick the location, the sponsors, or the date. Those things have a direct correlation on revenue and I'm going to control the revenue streams if I'm assuming the financial risk in the fight.

[Oshio]

Dem headless crab Wilder fan boys coming against the busiest promoter in the industry...

[juggernaut666]

Turns out the $12.5m and all that talk about the fight not generating enough to pay more was just BS.

What does the fight generate ?

[Oshio]

Hearn should take Wilders offer and run with it. Hearn has been wanting to build AJ’s profile in the States, so what better way to do it without taking any financial risk on his side. The only risk he will be taking is if AJ loses. If he wins, well, AJ and Hearn will be on top of the World

There are no IFs. Joshua will knock Wilder out anywhere in the world... He's got a Nigerian blood coursing through his vein

[juggernaut666]

Wrong on both accounts again.

Hearn himself said that he just doesn't want to look like a schmuck if he backs out for a reason like location or sponsorship. That isn't a NEED, that's a WANT. Exact quote “If we accept their offer and then don’t go through with the fight because we’re not happy, then we look like shmucks."


Finkel stated that once Hearn agreed to the financials, he would provide the proof of funds and a contract. He did not say he would NOT TALK. Exact quote "If Anthony agrees to accept our offer, we will be glad to supply you with a contract, proof of funds and any other relevant data needed to complete the contract."

How about you face those facts!

"Hearn himself said that he just doesn't want to look like a schmuck if he backs out for a reason like location or sponsorship. That isn't a NEED, that's a WANT. "


The quote is THE reason he needs the details .

You dont sign or agree if the deal is bad bc THEN he would have to back out unless he was obligated for agreeing .


What promoter would do that ?


Your entire post is contradictory !


What a fool you are bc your post gives a PERFECT reason he needs a MEETING...lol .......

[Oshio]

Hearn is the good guy.
Cmon man you must see that all promoters are shady as fu##.
Im sure this ish is not just coming from Wilders team.
They are all to blame.
How hard can it be to just all sit down with the real intention of making this fight.
All this back and forth b.s really takes the shine of what is gonna be a huge fight.

It is called "Promotion". They like the back and forth, keep talking about the fight whilst it builds... People pick interest on and on... You really got to be patient with dem promoters

[Redgloveman]

If my logic was faulty, you would have countered something I said instead of changing the subject.

Your logic is faulty.

Personally I've already spelled this out at length and frankly don't know if I can be bothered to do it again, but I'll try, albeit briefly.

It boils down to common sense if you can put your subjective reasoning to one side. So let's not refer to Hearn and Wilder's team, let's refer to X and Y

Y sends an offer to X to fight for $50m without giving any significant details.

X is very explicit that he is interested in a contract at that price and that he wants a meeting.

Although a meeting was already planned Y have cancelled them, claiming that until X accepts an offer that he knows nothing about they are unwilling to even enter into a discussion.

X is unwilling, however, to just assume that he knows what the details are and enter into a $50m contract which he knows next to nothing about.

Y have directed all communications about this offer via the media rather than simply dealing behind closed doors in an attempt to make a deal which suits both parties.

Which side do you think are being more obstructive when it comes to making a contract? Why would you cancel a meeting? There is literally no benefit to cancelling a meeting if you are interested in making the fight, unless you want to block the fight from getting made or try to induce the other side into taking a deal which really doesn't suit them.

It really doesn't take much brainpower to work this through. I'm more a Wilder than a Joshua fan, but Wilder's side (probably Hearn as well, but definitely Wilder's side) don't want this fight next. No doubt they realise that they have the potential to break the bank and want to make the most of it.

[IMDAZED]

What does the fight generate ?

Looks like Hearn will have to adjust his projections after the initial lowball.

[Scipio2009]

Except they couldn't because Finkel cancelled 2 meetings.

AJ said 'lets roll'.
Hearn said 'OK we are very interested if terms are right'.

Why does Finkel need more than that to attend a meeting and talking about the deal?

He doesn't have to disclose details he doesn't want to in that meeting.

Maybe I didn't understand Hearn's response, but it seemed to me that Hearn was still arguing over the money in the deal, and any meeting would be largely over the money have nothing to do with any of the actual details of the fight.

If all the meeting was going to be about was clowning Wilder, DiBella, and Finkell about being too broke to even be in a room with $50m, why have the meeting?