41 years old Klitschko vs 38 years old Ortiz - who is a better fighter?

[Cutthroat]

Based on nothing but your wild imagination. Both Thompson and Sanders were more proven and had better resumes.

The only wild imagination here is yours. Sanders lost to Rahman, and we know where Rahman's level is at just like we know where Maskaev's, Tua's and others are at.

Sanders is no different than a modern day Joey Abell, a southpaw journeyman, a glass cannon.

[joseph5620]

Based on nothing but your wild imagination. Both Thompson and Sanders were more proven and had better resumes.





How would these fights go in your opinion

Ortiz vs Fury (in 2015)

Klitschko vs Malik Scott, David Allen, David Martz (at the time Ortiz fought them)

Klitschko would have beaten any of those fighters. Ortiz vs Fury would have been interesting. I lean towards a Fury decision but I think Ortiz would have been more aggressive and offensive minded than Wladimir was. It would have been a competitive fight.

Klitschko looked like his timing was off in that fight and couldn't pull the trigger like an old fighter. The younger Klitschko would have beaten Fury convincingly in my opinion. Fury gets far too much credit for that fight.

[Cutthroat]

He's lost his power, man. That was clear to see last night. Nothing he hit Wilder with had much on them. Just goes to show how good Wilder's punch resistance is.

What is that based on? I need concrete evidence. His last 2 opponents got BRUTAL beat downs. Whyte has decent power but he couldn't put Allen away like Ortiz did.

A guy with a 90% KO ratio does not lose his power over night, even after a KO loss.

[Sid-Knee]

Based on statistics and resumes. Ortiz' KO ratio is actually in the 90% range when you take out the no contests and DQ he suffered. Only Scott has gone the distance and even he got battered.

Everyone knows Sanders was a glass cannon, he lost to Rahman and we know where Rahman himself was with his loss to Maskaev. We know where guys like Tua, Johnson, etc. all these heavies from the past era are and they're not on Ortiz' level at all.

Jennings is the best fighter Ortiz has been in the ring with. That should tell you everything.

Who cares if Ortiz was able to KO a load of bums? It means nothing.

If you're impressed with that, then you're easily pleased.

[Sid-Knee]

The only wild imagination here is yours. Sanders lost to Rahman, and we know where Rahman's level is at just like we know where Maskaev's, Tua's and others are at.

Sanders is no different than a modern day Joey Abell, a southpaw journeyman, a glass cannon.

Sanders and Abell are on the same level????

Ah man, **** off. Take your ****ed up delusion else where. You people are clowns, man.

[Cutthroat]

Jennings is the best fighter Ortiz has been in the ring with. That should tell you everything.

Who cares if Ortiz was able to KO a load of bums? It means nothing.

If you're impressed with that, then you're easily pleased.

Jennings gave Wlad one of the toughest fights of his career, Ortiz utterly dominated him.

Wlad made a career of destroying bums, he literally has ZERO wins over A level fighters.

[joseph5620]

Jennings is the best fighter Ortiz has been in the ring with. That should tell you everything.

Who cares if Ortiz was able to KO a load of bums? It means nothing.

If you're impressed with that, then you're easily pleased.

He stopped Jennings. That should tell you everything you need to know in terms of his power. Jennings had never been off his feet and that includes 12 rounds with Klitschko.

You can argue that Ortiz resume is lacking but questioning his power is silly.

[sotgoda]

Klitschko would have beaten any of those fighters. Ortiz vs Fury would have been interesting. I lean towards a Fury decision but I think Ortiz would have been more aggressive and offensive minded than Wladimir was. It would have been a competitive fight.

Klitschko looked like his timing was off in that fight and couldn't pull the trigger like an old fighter. The younger Klitschko would have beaten Fury convincingly in my opinion. Fury gets far too much credit for that fight.

I think Ortiz knocks out Fury. Fury was awkward but does not have enough power.

[Sid-Knee]

What is that based on? I need concrete evidence. His last 2 opponents got BRUTAL beat downs. Whyte has decent power but he couldn't put Allen away like Ortiz did.

A guy with a 90% KO ratio does not lose his power over night, even after a KO loss.

You can see when a fighter is a real puncher or not. And Ortiz isn't a real puncher.

He may have been somewhat a puncher a few years ago, but his power has certainly declined over the past couple of years.

[Cutthroat]

Sanders and Abell are on the same level????

Ah man, **** off. Take your ****ed up delusion else where. You people are clowns, man.

Sanders got put out by Nate Tubbs in 2 rounds, do you even know who TF Nate Tubbs is? He was a glass cannon period.

Rahman himself got obliterated by Lewis when Lewis took the fight seriously.

Wladimir Klitschko fought in an era where the best 6'5 and up fighters produced were Tony Thompson and Nikolai Valuev, that speaks volumes about the era he fought in.