41 years old Klitschko vs 38 years old Ortiz - who is a better fighter?

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  • LacedUp
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    #151
    Originally posted by Cutthroat
    Bryant Jennings was a top 5 HW when Ortiz beat him. Jennings actually went the distance with Wlad, he gave him a FAR tougher fight than Pulev, Haye, Pedvetkin.

    Ortiz did what Wlad couldn't, outclass and stop him, 2 judges had it 116-111 for Wlad vs Jennings.

    In B4 the "Wlad was old" excuse even though he dominated Pulev with ease a few months prior. Ortiz also KTFO of Tony Thompson, the 2nd best big man from Wlad's era lmao.

    I can tell that Jeff Wooden thing really bothers you, I bet he was a part time boxer too. Ortiz' amateur pedigree shows he's got boxing ability, in combination with his 97% KO ratio it's practically unheard of.

    Jeff Wooden, I bet you don't even know who he was, he was taking the contenders of the 90's/00s HW division to their limits LOL.
    wtf did I just read

    Couldn't read your bs with that first line.

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    • Szef
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      #152
      Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity
      And Odlanier Solis > Luis Ortiz. Since Solis ALWAYS beat Ortiz every time they faced each other. And Ortiz was Solis's sparring partner in the pros for Vitali Klitschko.

      And

      Vitali Klitschko KO1 Odlanier Solis.

      Luis Ortiz is overrated!
      Solis beat Ortiz five times in the amateurs

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      • Cutthroat
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        #153
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        wtf did I just read

        Couldn't read your bs with that first line.
        Prove me wrong. Jenning's only loss was a competitive fight with the #1 guy in the division, Klitschko. Pulev, Pedvetkin, Haye didn't do anywhere near as good as Jennings did vs Klitschko and it's because they weren't as good. Very simple.

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          #154
          Originally posted by Szef
          Solis beat Ortiz five times in the amateurs
          11 years ago lmao, Solis was a great fighter in the amateurs, once he came to America he got fat and lazy. You boys are reaching.

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            #155
            Originally posted by Cutthroat
            11 years ago lmao, Solis was a great fighter in the amateurs, once he came to America he got fat and lazy. You boys are reaching.
            Sanders beat Klitschko 15 years ago and yet you brought him up as the proof that Ortiz would beat Wlad

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            • Cutthroat
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              #156
              Originally posted by Szef
              Sanders beat Klitschko 15 years ago and yet you brought him up as the proof that Ortiz would beat Wlad
              Wlad has consistently shown defensive flaws throughout his career, that's the difference, as a pro Ortiz has been practically flawless. It took him years to master his holding and even when he did he was still getting exposed.

              In 2012 Wlad was still getting rocked by a guy like Wach, saved by the bell by a guy with a 50% KO ratio. Jennings lit up his body, Fury completely picked him apart, AJ annihilated him despite being just 3 years pro.

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              • uppercut510
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                #157
                they were both pretty good wins, wlad was coming off a loss and a layoff but his name makes him the better win, ortiz is very good u goaat give props to wilder. but we cant ignore that wlad has lost to lesser fighters b4 as well

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                • Sheldon312
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by uppercut510
                  they were both pretty good wins, wlad was coming off a loss and a layoff but his name makes him the better win, ortiz is very good u goaat give props to wilder. but we cant ignore that wlad has lost to lesser fighters b4 as well
                  So did Ali and Foreman. Are we going to say that Ortiz could beat them also?

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                  • miamike
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                    #159
                    Klitschko was the better fighter overall and had a better career but by the time he was 40 he was shot. Fury dominated him and then he had a year of inactivity before he was fed to Joshua.
                    Ortiz started his career late and did not have much wear and tear on his body.

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                    • Sid-Knee
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by joseph5620
                      Ortiz didn't gas out. He got caught and hurt by punches.Your belief that he gassed out after a few punches is ****** and an example of your biased emotions.
                      Haha, do a poll on Ortiz gassing as well. Ortiz didn't do anything for 6 rounds, but after a flurry of punches he's finished.

                      I know you want Wilder to get full credit and all, but you shouldn't attempt to lie to yourself.

                      Go on, do a poll for both and find out the answer. You know you'll lose it.

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