41 years old Klitschko vs 38 years old Ortiz - who is a better fighter?

[Mrsantiago]

Vitali lost to an old Lewis and a prime Sanders would've put him out, he got put on bambi legs by him. Vitali was tougher than Wlad but lesser overall.

Vitaly was a fighter Wlad is a coward that beat bums fighting like a coward scared to get his jaw tapped. He did have tools but he was too clumsy and stiff with a weak jaw. Viltaly may have wobbled but he never fell and Lewis won on a technicality after getting his ass whooped but I give him credit for that cause Lewis is wayyyyyy better than Wlad and Vitaly in his prime but the Lewis that fought Vitaly would have stopped Wlad whenever he landed. Dont get me wrong Wlad is good but not what Aj diccriders are maling him out to be. Lets behonest he was coming off a loss and a 2 year layoff which is bad for older fighters in general so he wasn’t at peak level. But in fairness to Aj for Aj’s experience level he was perfect but the win is way overrated to make Aj seem like he’s Mike Tyson 2.0. Again dont get me wrong Aj nor Wilder are all time greats and neither is #1 if anything they share that title die to getting rid of the supposed threats (if Aj beats parker which he should easily I hope) Tyson Fury would probably beat both on points in the same night is he’s on form. But Tyson is 1# because he beat the supposed man when he was the supposed man.

[Sid-Knee]

Jennings gave Wlad one of the toughest fights of his career, Ortiz utterly dominated him.

Wlad made a career of destroying bums, he literally has ZERO wins over A level fighters.

Haha. Jennings got dominated by Wlad. I have no idea what fight you were watching.

One of the toughest fights of his career? Go and get some sleep, you're obviously lagging after an all night crack binge. Come back tomorrow when you're refreshed.

Wlads resume ****s all over Ortiz' resume. Go on, go get some sleep.

[joseph5620]

I think Ortiz knocks out Fury. Fury was awkward but does not have enough power.

I agree that Fury didn't have the power to hurt Ortiz.

[Santa_]

Obviously Klitschko but there's no denying whatsoever that Wlad would have met the same fate as Ortiz did last night. 8 rounds tops.

[Sid-Knee]

I agree that Fury didn't have the power to hurt Ortiz.

He didn't need the power. His skill would have taken of Ortiz in a one sided mismatch. Fury is levels about Ortiz.

[Cutthroat]

You can see when a fighter is a real puncher or not. And Ortiz isn't a real puncher.

He may have been somewhat a puncher a few years ago, but his power has certainly declined over the past couple of years.

Ortiz's KO ratio is about 30% higher than Sanders'.

Multiple fighters went the distance with Sanders, journeyman like Purrity, Kulpin, Nelson, Evans, guys NOBODY remembers.

Sanders has been KO'd by Tubbs, Rahman, Ortiz nobody.

But Sanders hits harder and his resume is better?

Even a guy like Tua arguably lost to a journeyman named Jeff Wooden, but do you even know who that is?


Sanders' era was far weaker than this current era where the best super heavies were guys like Purrity, Thompson and Valuev outside of the Kltschkos. This era has multiple super heavies, Wilder, AJ, Fury, Ortiz, Parker, even guys like Breazeale, Ugonoh, etc.

[GhostofDempsey]

Wlad was the better win. Defeated better fighters. Was bigger and stronger.

A 38 year old Louis was better than both of them when he bloodied up Marciano's face and lost by KO in the eighth.

[Cutthroat]

Haha. Jennings got dominated by Wlad. I have no idea what fight you were watching.

One of the toughest fights of his career? Go and get some sleep, you're obviously lagging after an all night crack binge. Come back tomorrow when you're refreshed.

Wlads resume ****s all over Ortiz' resume. Go on, go get some sleep.

That was far from a domination, Jennings was working Wlad's body thoroughly all night and making him miss. It was FAR more competitive than Pulev, Haye, Pedvetkin, Thompson etc.

[joseph5620]

He didn't need the power. His skill would have taken of Ortiz in a one sided mismatch. Fury is levels about Ortiz.

In your opinion.

[Szef]

The only wild imagination here is yours. Sanders lost to Rahman, and we know where Rahman's level is at just like we know where Maskaev's, Tua's and others are at.

Sanders is no different than a modern day Joey Abell, a southpaw journeyman, a glass cannon.

Lmao Rahman has a win over Lennox, drew with Toney and Tua. That alone ****s or anything Ortiz have done. And it's not up for debate.

In fact, Those three favorite fighters are more proven and have better resumes than Luis Ortiz.

Just go already, you're embarrassing yourself. Lol at you Wilder turds after every fight of his you guys come up with more ******ed notions than last time

Klitschko would have beaten any of those fighters. Ortiz vs Fury would have been interesting. I lean towards a Fury decision but I think Ortiz would have been more aggressive and offensive minded than Wladimir was. It would have been a competitive fight.

Klitschko looked like his timing was off in that fight and couldn't pull the trigger like an old fighter. The younger Klitschko would have beaten Fury convincingly in my opinion. Fury gets far too much credit for that fight.

The point I was trying to make is you can't judge how good Ortiz and Wlad were at the time based on those fights because of the huge difference in class between fury and the guys Ortiz fought

Besides AJ didn’t fight the same Klitschko Fury fought. Klitschko was much more motivated and was at his lightest weight in years

I'd bet any amount of money that the 2017 version of Klitschko beats the Ortiz we saw last night. Any amount