41 years old Klitschko vs 38 years old Ortiz - who is a better fighter?

[Mrsantiago]

Ortiz was on PEDS for most of his career. He couldn't use them against Wilder and got knocked out.
So was Wlad and his brother do your googles

Wlad was actually a legit ATG champ who ruled the division for a decade.
No he wasn’t his brother was
the real deal Wlad was better than the rest of the bums in his era and a few of those bums knocked his ass out
He was like a stiff version of Wilder w/o the killer instinct and athleticism
Night and day.

Vitaly was the truth he was the real deal Wlad was just the best of a weak era minus the stylistic threats he clearly avoided tbh. His brother who was the best and he never layed down or got layed out by bums he did quit on his stool against Chris Byrd tho lol.
Wlad is just like Aj and Wilder the best of a weak era and until they duke it out we dont know whos the best because Tyson Fury who is not exiting AT ALL isbetter than both of them.

[joseph5620]

Both were seriously in a state of decline and coming off an 18 month lay off as well as Ortiz who’d fought less than two rounds in 14 months coming into the Wilder fight.

Just goes to show how poor the belt holders in the division right now. Heavyweight is dead, cruiser is where it’s at.

There is no evidence of Ortiz declining. You can speculate about his age but nothing previous to this fight exposed him as a "seriously" declining fighter. Nothing.

[Cutthroat]

Its astonishing how people try to pretend Wlad was a credible win after the previous performance he put up against Tyson Fury which was whole year and a half prior. Dude was washed and everyone on this board knows it. You cant beat Father Time. I guess age and inactivity doesn't mean anything anymore.

Wlad was the lightest of his career since about 2009 vs AJ, he was not a shot fighter by any means and was the favorite to beat Fury. Wlad even picked up the best win of his career looking as dominant as ever 2 1/2 years earlier vs Pulev. It's funny how he became "past it" when he stepped up in competition.

Wlad became a better fighter as he aged, he was shyt pre-Steward, then too conservative with Steward, then reached a balance of offense/defense under Banks peaking as a 40 year old.

[Sid-Knee]

Who did he beat? Ruling shyte for a decade doesn't impress me. And then as soon as his opponents became too big to lay on, he got UD'd. Twice and then he retired. Not only that, but he got KTFO! Twice! His big brother had to avenge him! Wladmir Klitschko is an admirable man, but is one of the most the most overrated champs ever. Ortiz would have knocked Wlad out.

In a comparison between Ortiz and Wlad you're asking who did Wlad beat???

Are you for real here??

Ortiz has one win against Jennings who was decent but nothing more. Wlad was the first one to beat him, and it isn't even in Wlads top 10 wins.

The madness you're coming out with should have you banned for being a massive ****head who's the equivalent of an absolute dribbler.

And take your fellow deluded Americans with you.

[Cutthroat]

Vitaly was the truth he was the real deal Wlad was just the best of a weak era minus the stylistic threats he clearly avoided tbh. His brother who was the best and he never layed down or got layed out by bums he did quit on his stool against Chris Byrd tho lol.
Wlad is just like Aj and Wilder the best of a weak era and until they duke it out we dont know whos the best because Tyson Fury who is not exiting AT ALL isbetter than both of them.

Vitali lost to an old Lewis and a prime Sanders would've put him out, he got put on bambi legs by him. Vitali was tougher than Wlad but lesser overall.

[Sid-Knee]

How easy do posters miss the simple question on here? Would you take the 41 year old Wlad who lost to AJ or the Ortiz from last night who lost to DW?

This has nothing to do with being a champ, being ko'd 3 different times, being unknown or ducked.

Ortiz, stylisticly is a bad matchup for a 41 year old Wlad. Its a tough fight but I think the 41 year old Wlad gets caught with a counter left and hurt bad. Ortiz by stoppage or Wlad by noting decision as he doesn't take the chances Wilder did would be my 2 most realistic outcomes.

Wlad would control and dominate the slow as hell Ortiz. It's a bit of a mismatch to be perfectly honest.

[Sid-Knee]

What was Wlad's best win? Well? Yeah...thought so.

Thanks for playing, though.

You take the forum clown trophy by a mile.

Congratulations son.

Anybody who reads this idiots posts and doesn't laugh should get their heads looked at. Delusion doesn't even begin to cut it.

[The Big Dunn]

Wlad is the far better fighter if we are talking at their best. Going into the AJ fight, wlad was coming off a layoff and looked bad against Fury. Ortiz was coming in with the momentum of ko’ s over bums but also had failed a PED test.

As much as I hate Wlad, and even though he had lost, imo he was better than Ortiz was last night. Maybe not a whole lot, but definitely better.

[Sid-Knee]

Its astonishing how people try to pretend Wlad was a credible win after the previous performance he put up against Tyson Fury which was whole year and a half prior. Dude was washed and everyone on this board knows it. You cant beat Father Time. I guess age and inactivity doesn't mean anything anymore.

Yes, because Ortiz looked stellar against Allen and Scott didn't he.

Well done for showing no bias in any way. Good day.

[Sid-Knee]

Ortiz-80% KO ratio

Sanders-67% KO ratio

Thompson-57% KO ratio

Ortiz is a level beyond both fighters in terms of skill and power

The thing is, Ortiz lost his power 2-3 years ago. Those punches were not heavy in the slightest. Still had Wilder all over the place ready to go though.