Boxing fans get what they derserve

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Showtime doesn't think that Linares can win, largely because they have their money backing the better fighter.

There is a difference between can and will. Showtime likely doesn't think Linares will win, but he certainly can win. It's not such a lopsided match up where you just take the risk and hope for the best. It's a real fight. Mikey likely comes out on top, but it would still be wholly irresponsible for Showtime to make that fight.

Right now Showtime controls the undefeated WBC champion and the undefeated IBF champion. You can match them up and control the winner and the loser and largely control the division.

So why would they want to have to get into a bidding war with HBO for the right to allow HBO's fighter to potentially come in, no strings attached, no rematch clause, and just completely steal control of the division and waltz right back to HBO?

That's just not how this business works man. Showtime has the budget to beat HBO's offer for basically any fight. Yet they prefer to spend their money on Mikey vs Easter when they could have very easily had Mikey vs Linares instead.

Why do you think that is?

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1st of all I don't think them numbers or close the offer for MG V JL would be much higher then Easter who is unknown.

We were just giving hypothetical numbers to show how Mikey would make more fighting Easter even if the licensing fee for the fight was less than Linares.

There's no way the offer for Mikey vs Linares is "much higher" because HBO's budget is puny. Their offer will NEVER be much higher than SHO unless there is a major reversal in budgets years from now.

Easter is not unknown. He has 75,000 instagram followers. Linares is obviously more well known (he has 120,000), but Easter has a solid following in his own right.

If Showtime wanted Mikey vs Linares, then they'd be buying Mikey vs Linares. Who would stop them? Clearly they don't want the fight because if they did, the fight would be happening.

And odlh and his vice both said they would work with either and MG never said anything diff.

That's because it was GBP's job to find a buyer that would allow them to pay Mikey more than he'd make fighting Easter on Showtime (Mikey fighting Easter on Showtime has been the plan for months).

GBP wasn't able to beat the offer, so the fight isn't happening. This is basic basic stuff.

And I think show to get big fight would be willing to gamble as far as "losing control" because MG would be pretty big fav.

Well thank you for letting us know what you think, but if you were correct, THE FIGHT WOULD BE HAPPENING.

Also does Linares have a deal with HBO I don't think so nothing to stop him from signing with SHOW.

SHOWTIME DOESN'T WANT GBP FIGHTERS.

And I'm sure GB would like to defrost their relationship wiyh SHOW anyway with HBO shrinking budget.

Of course they would. But SHO isn't interested.

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If I was a Promoter, I would IGNORE the Idiots on the Internet because the people who b1tch and complain the most about the sport of boxing also don't support it. They don't attend fights like and they don't buy PPV's. I think it was Dana White who called "Internet Fights" out some years ago and honestly he was right a lot of the Troll don't buy PPV's or Tickets to even which makes their opinions Useless!

[john l]

We were just giving hypothetical numbers to show how Mikey would make more fighting Easter even if the licensing fee for the fight was less than Linares.

There's no way the offer for Mikey vs Linares is "much higher" because HBO's budget is puny. Their offer will NEVER be much higher than SHO unless there is a major reversal in budgets years from now.

Easter is not unknown. He has 75,000 instagram followers. Linares is obviously more well known (he has 120,000), but Easter has a solid following in his own right.

If Showtime wanted Mikey vs Linares, then they'd be buying Mikey vs Linares. Who would stop them? Clearly they don't want the fight because if they did, the fight would be happening.




That's because it was GBP's job to find a buyer that would allow them to pay Mikey more than he'd make fighting Easter on Showtime (Mikey fighting Easter on Showtime has been the plan for months).

GBP wasn't able to beat the offer, so the fight isn't happening. This is basic basic stuff.




Well thank you for letting us know what you think, but if you were correct, THE FIGHT WOULD BE HAPPENING.




SHOWTIME DOESN'T WANT GBP FIGHTERS.




Of course they would. But SHO isn't interested.

I have went over this tons of times(not just with you)So I'm kinda sick of sayin same thing.I don't agree that SHOW would not work with GB fighters.esp if it fit them and this fight PROB would.Their fighter gets bigger name and would be sig fav.And who says HBO would not outbid them.I mean they lost 2 biggest stars(Craw,Loma) and have extra money like signing Andrade to 3 fight deal and lets face he is more unknown then either of top 2 135pders.Although very good fighter

[john l]

If I was a Promoter, I would IGNORE the Idiots on the Internet because the people who b1tch and complain the most about the sport of boxing also don't support it. They don't attend fights like and they don't buy PPV's. I think it was Dana White who called "Internet Fights" out some years ago and honestly he was right a lot of the Troll don't buy PPV's or Tickets to even which makes their opinions Useless!

Well ive paid thousands in ppvs and have been to MANY shows mostly local.

[john l]

We were just giving hypothetical numbers to show how Mikey would make more fighting Easter even if the licensing fee for the fight was less than Linares.

There's no way the offer for Mikey vs Linares is "much higher" because HBO's budget is puny. Their offer will NEVER be much higher than SHO unless there is a major reversal in budgets years from now.

Easter is not unknown. He has 75,000 instagram followers. Linares is obviously more well known (he has 120,000), but Easter has a solid following in his own right.

If Showtime wanted Mikey vs Linares, then they'd be buying Mikey vs Linares. Who would stop them? Clearly they don't want the fight because if they did, the fight would be happening.




That's because it was GBP's job to find a buyer that would allow them to pay Mikey more than he'd make fighting Easter on Showtime (Mikey fighting Easter on Showtime has been the plan for months).

GBP wasn't able to beat the offer, so the fight isn't happening. This is basic basic stuff.




Well thank you for letting us know what you think, but if you were correct, THE FIGHT WOULD BE HAPPENING.




SHOWTIME DOESN'T WANT GBP FIGHTERS.




Of course they would. But SHO isn't interested.

And the reason its not Happing is because Mikey.Thats undisputed even Micky says it was "good offer".H e just CLAIMS that he got better deal.Thats where the ? is.But like I said I'm burned out on this but let me ask you one?W ho is the tougher fight RIGHT NOW Linares or Easter?

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And the reason its not Happing is because Mikey.

That's one way to look at it, but we believe a more logical way to look at it would be that the fight is not happening because GBP insisted on 50/50 even though Mikey is more in demand in the marketplace than Linares is. Mikey had a lucrative major Showtime show waiting for him, Linares didn't. Mikey's non-Linares option paid more than the Linares option. Linares' non-Mikey option will not pay more than the Mikey option. So with that in mind, 50/50 is what killed the deal, not Mikey. If the split better reflected the realities of the market, then the Linares fight would have been Mikey's most lucrative offer and he would have accepted it.

Thats undisputed even Micky says it was "good offer".H e just CLAIMS that he got better deal.Thats where the ? is.

There's no question he took the better deal. You don't know him at all if you think he took the worst deal. He's convinced he EASILY beats either of them. Whichever fight paid more is the fight he wanted.

But like I said I'm burned out on this but let me ask you one?W ho is the tougher fight RIGHT NOW Linares or Easter?

Our personal belief is that Easter is the tougher fight, but that Linares is a bigger name and would have looked better on the resume.

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I don't agree that SHOW would not work with GB fighters.esp if it fit them and this fight PROB would.

Again, thank you for telling us what you think. But if you don't have any experience working in the industry or any insight into how these networks operate and plot strategy, we're not sure why you would be so convinced that you'd have any idea what they would do.

Showtime is at war with HBO. Golden Boy is a struggling promoter hanging on by a thread, but they have the biggest star in US boxing, and therefore, they are HBO's preferred promoter. It is in Showtime's best interest for Golden Boy to go out of business. Showtime wants Golden Boy to struggle as much as possible and the absolute last thing they would ever want to do is give a lucrative date to Linares, let alone a one and done, no rematch clause, no strings attached date when he could potentially beat one of Showtime's most important rising stars, unify the belts, and ruin all of Showtime's plans for the division.

There's just no way in hell they would do it. And if you don't understand how these networks operate, then ask someone who has worked for them or has some experience in similar matters instead of clinging so tightly to an uneducated guess.

Unless Canelo jumping ship is on the table, GBP is dead to Showtime. Dead. There is absolutely no benefit to SHO to bail out GBP in any way, bail out any of their fighters in any way, do absolutely anything that could potentially help GBP in any way.

If Canelo was up for grabs, it's a different story. Until then, nothing.

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That's one way to look at it, but we believe a more logical way to look at it would be that the fight is not happening because GBP insisted on 50/50 even though Mikey is more in demand in the marketplace than Linares is. Mikey had a lucrative major Showtime show waiting for him, Linares didn't. Mikey's non-Linares option paid more than the Linares option. Linares' non-Mikey option will not pay more than the Mikey option. So with that in mind, 50/50 is what killed the deal, not Mikey. If the split better reflected the realities of the market, then the Linares fight would have been Mikey's most lucrative offer and he would have accepted it.




There's no question he took the better deal. You don't know him at all if you think he took the worst deal. He's convinced he EASILY beats either of them. Whichever fight paid more is the fight he wanted.




Our personal belief is that Easter is the tougher fight, but that Linares is a bigger name and would have looked better on the resume.

1ST who is "we" and "us"And how do you know it was the 50-50 is what killed it mikey never said that?And how do you know Mikey is = convinced that he can beat both?Most experts I believe would think Linares has a tougher style for mikey then Easter.But I agree Linares would look better on resume.Because at this moment he is bigger name and tougher fight.

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talk about somone sayin what "they think"