Boxing fans get what they derserve

[chrisJS]

I'm surprised Mikey hasn't really tried to fight too much in the LA market. I can't remember him headlining a card here which is a shame as he would sell well I feel.

Regarding a lot of Boxing fans it seems that many are more into spewing hatred and are obsessed with who's ducking rather than seeing matches get made. The Loma-Rigo is a perfect example it was nonstop how Loma was running scared and was ducking Rigo once it's made the same fans took a dump on the match and are mad it's happening. At least the Loma crowd who said Rigo would run are happy with the fight.

Some folk are more into the fake drama outside the ring and pushing their narratives than what goes on inside the ring outside of a handful of their favorite fighters.

[john l]

Showtime is buying the fight. Why would Haymon lose money?




Here are some hypothetical numbers to help you better understand the situation. Let's say HBO was willing to pay $2.5 million for Garcia-Linares and let's say SHO was willing to pay $2 million for Garcia-Easter. Garcia-Linares is 50/50 while let's say Garcia-Easter is 70/30. Garcia would make more money fighting Easter.

Garcia-Easter is an undefeated vs undefeated unification between two fighters SHO has future plans for. Of course they're going to be interested in the fight.




Then you don't understand how this business works. Linares is with GBP. SHO doesn't want to work with GBP. If Linares upsets Mikey, SHO is then completely screwed in a weight class they're invested in. Why in the world would SHO want to risk an HBO fighter beating their top fighter in the weight class when SHO's universe already has two undefeated world champions in that class and there's absolutely no reason to risk their control of the division?

1st of all I don't think them numbers or close the offer for MG V JL would be much higher then Easter who is unknown.And odlh and his vice both said they would work with either and MG never said anything diff.And I think show to get big fight would be willing to gamble as far as "losing control" because MG would be pretty big fav.Also does Linares have a deal with HBO I don't think so nothing to stop him from signing with SHOW.And I'm sure GB would like to defrost their relationship wiyh SHOW anyway with HBO shrinking budget.

[john l]

If you're a draw you don't go overseas to fight the challenger. Easter has some of the best numbers on bounce TV. More than Linares got on Showtime & HBO. If he'd gotten those same numbers on ESPN, FS1, or Spike TV he'd be praised. But since it was on a black platform people try to downplay the numbers as if those ratings don't count.

What other fighters are consistently drawing 10k in their hometown or anywhere for that matter? The first time Linares ever headlined a fight on US tv was because Showtime was showing his fight on order to set up the Garcia fight. He's signed with Golden Boy & HBO passed on his fights. The first time HBO showed his fight was when Top Rank left and they needed content. His ratings & attendance were lower than Easter Jr. Those are facts! Your opinion means **** when the facts say different.

Your so called facks are BS He has highest numbers on Bounce???You know prob less then half country get Bounce in 1st place.And show me where it says that he gets best ratings.That not facts that just YOU sayin things.Fact Easter has NEVER fought on HBO,SHOW,ESPN,FOX1OR2.Them are facts.

[john l]

Because Mikey Garcia said he had an offer on the table for significantly more money, and the only fight that's been talked about for him is for Easter Jr next. Not that hard to figure out.

Golden Boy made their offer, Mikey Garcia acknowledged that the second offer was one made in good faith, but there was another fight that was a better deal.

Garcia fights in January (Could easily see a Mikey Garcia/Chavez Jr doubleheader from Staples Center/The Forum or something), wins the fight in good form, and then makes a good faith offer to have Linares come over to Showtime for a fight May/June.

If Mikey was sitting on a better deal than Golden Boy felt they could offer, Showtime should be more than well positioned to back Mikey to make the Linares fight.

Ringstar Sports/TGB Promotions handles the logistics for Mikey, Showtime handles the TV, and the fight gets shopped along the West Coast for the best venue (basically kept to SoCal or Las Vegas).

Yes HE said he had better deal.I have hard time believing that.Plus as fans and not PROMOTERS I wanna see 1VS 2.And really even if its a few more bucks(again I doubt)It sure as s hite could not have been much.

[Scipio2009]

right, but they can deliver a garcia easter rematch, they cant deliver a garcia linares rematch.

if linares wins, he signs an exclusive deal with hbo and mikey can only get a rematch signing a long term deal with gbp.

if easter wins, mikey can get a rematch no problem.

so why would you take a fight that pays LESS and does more damage to your career if you lose?

Showtime doesn't think that Linares can win, largely because they have their money backing the better fighter.

If Linares wins, then Linares wins; as long as Mikey fights well, it's not like Showtime turns their back on him. Mikey can hold the L, go up to 140lbs, and rebuild their.

Jorge Linares can get the win, watch Golden Boy mess up the rematch talks with Mikey, and then be left in a situation where the other belts either involve Haymon talks (for IBF champ Easter) or talks with Top Rank (WBO belt seems set to stick with Arum), and still no HBO deal.

[Scipio2009]

1st of all I don't think them numbers or close the offer for MG V JL would be much higher then Easter who is unknown.And odlh and his vice both said they would work with either and MG never said anything diff.And I think show to get big fight would be willing to gamble as far as "losing control" because MG would be pretty big fav.Also does Linares have a deal with HBO I don't think so nothing to stop him from signing with SHOW.And I'm sure GB would like to defrost their relationship wiyh SHOW anyway with HBO shrinking budget.

This may be hyperbole, but I doubt that Showtime would piss on Oscar De La Hoya did he were on fire at this point; he ****ed them out of the long-term relationship that they'd established with Canelo.

Linares is nowhere enough to make up for that

[Scipio2009]

Yes HE said he had better deal.I have hard time believing that.Plus as fans and not PROMOTERS I wanna see 1VS 2.And really even if its a few more bucks(again I doubt)It sure as s hite could not have been much.

Showtime Championship Boxing, generally speaking, puts nearly $3m behind their broadcasts, and Mikey Garcia would be the clear top star on the show (Easter Jr's biggest disclosed purse so far was for $150k).

Compare that to the money that HBO puts behind their shows (if the total payouts get to $2m I'd be shocked), and it's clear that there's a disconnect.

Adrien Broner and Mikey Garcia split $2m (plus whatever outside money they picked up); let that sink in.

[john l]

This may be hyperbole, but I doubt that Showtime would piss on Oscar De La Hoya did he were on fire at this point; he ****ed them out of the long-term relationship that they'd established with Canelo.

Linares is nowhere enough to make up for that

Well it looks to me like SHOW trying to take over the prem channel boxing.And its not just Linares I'm sure they would not mind to be able to work with GB for other fights.And GB said they had no prob workin with anyone.And Mikey did not dispute that either.But what ever man I mean boxing fans just seem happy to get thrown any decent bone(mg v easter aint bad fight)So that's all your ever gonna get.Its funny anyother sport this would be a joke.I mean to you think football fans would be fine with letting Pats play 3rd best team last SUPER BOWL because Jerry Jones offered them a little more money.

[john l]

And like I said I think it came down more to styles then money.And I would pick Mickey to win both.But I DONT WANNa JUST GUESS.I wanna see them fight.But for now Mikey is takin easier route and it is what it is.

[john l]

Showtime Championship Boxing, generally speaking, puts nearly $3m behind their broadcasts, and Mikey Garcia would be the clear top star on the show (Easter Jr's biggest disclosed purse so far was for $150k).

Compare that to the money that HBO puts behind their shows (if the total payouts get to $2m I'd be shocked), and it's clear that there's a disconnect.

Adrien Broner and Mikey Garcia split $2m (plus whatever outside money they picked up); let that sink in.

Dude I'm not gonna keep sayin it over and over.He took easier route and your kinda souding like a promoter for him.And AB was draw for that fight whether you like it or not.I don't remember payout but even if your right and it was even that had more to do with them wanting to be I MG buis later.AB had reach his level and was going down. let that sink in.Plus what the hell does have to do with anything??????????you sayin SHOW pays more for MG V JL then MG VS RE????????? but really I'm done with repeating myself .