GGG's Legacy

[djtmal]

Where did I post or imply any of these guys were prime? Your personal opinion noted, it would be dishonest for you to post that the overwhelming opinion on NSB was Floyd was scared of Shane and that Shane would beat him.

who cares really...floyd waited the better guys out to, in his own words, maximize the earning potential of the event, from a financial standpoint i can respect that, but these fights marinated way past their due date, and the downside to that is these guys became old either in ring years or in age, shopworn, ko'd, and shells of the fighter they once were, thereby taking away from the legacy value of the fight.....

so why would a well preserved fighter like floyd be scared of a guy he knows is a shopworn version of himself...

[djtmal]

Well that's neither here nor there whether you care or not.

Again just merely stating the fact.

its also a fact that shane was inactive over a year...thats not my opinion

its also a fact that shane had been raked through the coals already...thats not my opinion....

you see how it works? you accept my s**t, and I'll accept yours

[chrisJS]

Ok that's May of 1998.

In 1999 when he fought Trinidad he was not ranked on the P4P list.

I'm saying that ranking stood until the March 1999 issue (which was 12 months after his fight with Pestriev or whatever his name was). They eliminated after 12 months of inactivity despite fights scheduled (including the Tito one) so clearly they had more difficult rules and policies to stay ranked (that's when Nigel Collins was editor and wasn't GBP owned).

Mythical pound for pound rankings aren't gospel and can be wrong. That's been proven time and time again and it's obviously anyway Mosley was seriously declined (5 losses, 1 win vs. a not so good opponent anyway in 10 years, 16 month layoff and aged 38 is clear evidence of that). At least Whitaker was basically undefeated although a whopping 1 month more inactive and only 34, much closer to his elite days and much, much better than Mosley anyway.

[QballLobo]

He’ll be remembered by his 12 groupies here and quickly forgotten by everyone else.

[chrisJS]

Where did I post or imply any of these guys were prime? Your personal opinion noted, it would be dishonest for you to post that the overwhelming opinion on NSB was Floyd was scared of Shane and that Shane would beat him.

Wasn't reading the forums. I know myself and all my Boxing fan friends knew Mosley was washed up and Mayweather would win easily. That's been the case with nearly every Mayweather fight post 2002. It's part of the reason I've not really been that interested in any of his fights during that time (and skipped many of them) in addition to generally not enjoying the action. I don't really have anything against him - I've never met him.

No dishonesty on my part. I'm not surprised people said he was scared or that Mosley would win. Boxing/Sports fans are 50% idiots and 50% smart. Just like the legions on here who swore blind Russell would destroy Loma, that Walters would and that he'd duck Rigo and was running scared. Same with Pacquaio, I'm sure there were tons picking against him every fight and not giving an ounce of credit every fight. Many people pick a side and ride it out and go one way sucking a guy off no matter what and the other way hating and criticizing no matter what. The truth is in the middle usually told by neutral observers like myself.

[djtmal]

I'm saying that ranking stood until the March 1999 issue (which was 12 months after his fight with Pestriev or whatever his name was). They eliminated after 12 months of inactivity despite fights scheduled (including the Tito one) so clearly they had more difficult rules and policies to stay ranked (that's when Nigel Collins was editor and wasn't GBP owned).

Mythical pound for pound rankings aren't gospel and can be wrong. That's been proven time and time again and it's obviously anyway Mosley was seriously declined (5 losses, 1 win vs. a not so good opponent anyway in 10 years, 16 month layoff and aged 38 is clear evidence of that). At least Whitaker was basically undefeated although a whopping 1 month more inactive and only 34, much closer to his elite days and much, much better than Mosley anyway.

....you broke this down to the least common denominator...much respect....if a floyd boy doesn't respect this statement, they are not hopeless, but hapless...

[Xi_]

[QUOTE=djtmal;18116528]

stevie wonder can see that your only option here is to downplay duran and hearns so floyd looks better

how ****** you sound really...

you trying to compare a win over one of the greatest boxer/punchers on all time, to some shopworn hof's at best and some paper champs...

give it up already..

Hagler has ZERO prime atgs on his resume.....name one or stfu.

[IronDanHamza]

I'm saying that ranking stood until the March 1999 issue (which was 12 months after his fight with Pestriev or whatever his name was). They eliminated after 12 months of inactivity despite fights scheduled (including the Tito one) so clearly they had more difficult rules and policies to stay ranked (that's when Nigel Collins was editor and wasn't GBP owned).

Mythical pound for pound rankings aren't gospel and can be wrong. That's been proven time and time again and it's obviously anyway Mosley was seriously declined (5 losses, 1 win vs. a not so good opponent anyway in 10 years, 16 month layoff and aged 38 is clear evidence of that). At least Whitaker was basically undefeated although a whopping 1 month more inactive and only 34, much closer to his elite days and much, much better than Mosley anyway.

No it didn't continue because he wasn't on the list at the end of 1998.

He wasn't ranked P4P in 1999.

Again, as I've said multiple times you can argue whether he should or shouldn't have been all day. That's a different story.

However the fact is he was P4P #3. Universally.

[IronDanHamza]

its also a fact that shane was inactive over a year...thats not my opinion

its also a fact that shane had been raked through the coals already...thats not my opinion....

you see how it works? you accept my s**t, and I'll accept yours

Well yeah those are facts. Well done you are getting better.

Again all I was doing was clarifying the fact that Shane was P4P #3 across the board when Floyd fought him.

[chrisJS]

No it didn't continue because he wasn't on the list at the end of 1998.

He wasn't ranked P4P in 1999.

Again, as I've said multiple times you can argue whether he should or shouldn't have been all day. That's a different story.

However the fact is he was P4P #3. Universally.

Ok, Mosley was the 3rd best fighter in the world in 2010. You go ahead and believe that.

Mayweather W12 Mosley >>> Sanchez KO8 Gomez, Hopkins KO12 Trinidad, Hearns W15 Benitez, Chavez KO12 Taylor and = to Jones W12 Toney

I'll have to disagree because mythical rankings can and often are false especially when dealing with a washed up 38 year old 10 years past his prime and who was 8 wins in 14 fights and only one clean win (vs. a bum) in that 10 years. Just my standard though after all that version of Mosley is better than all the above apparently.