Why it's NOT bad for boxing if McGregor wins

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  • Eff Pandas
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    #61
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Bamboozled by this post. Not even sure how to respond to it.

    So what are you saying here exactly that guys that don't box, have never boxed but compete in other combat sports have some evolved fighting experience that us normal boxing guys can't see, and normal boxers can-t fahtom?

    I'm slightly speechless here as I know you aren't joking.
    So if Conor wins somehow he just magically won? Floyd can't lose according to some of you guys. But if he does what else could that mean except they found a hole in Floyd's game &/or had a strategy that beat him? You guys make it sound like Floyd CAN'T possibly ever lose or something nutty like that. That makes me speechless that you guys can't envision how Floyd could lose.

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    • Spacey1991
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      #62
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      Sparring doesn't equate to Boxing experience.

      Boxers hone their craft in sparring and gain their experience when they fight.

      A guy with 0 fights at amateur or pro level has no boxing experience.
      Exactly this, you can do all the sparring you like, nothing compares to an actual fight where there's a win/lose at stake to go on your record. That's where you truly gain experience.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #63
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        Well based on your logic I have zero boxing experience. I really don't see how thats relevant doe cuz competition isn't the only thing that creates experience doing something & I think thats naive to think how you think about experience.

        Boxing isn't THAT unique of an event to only count when refs & judges are involved.
        It's relevant because I could never imagine someone who has competed as an amateur or a professional boxer saying that sparring equates to boxing experience and definitely hitting bags and pads equating to Boxing experience.

        Again, the last sentence is just an extremely naive thing to say.

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          #64
          I don't think it really damages the sport. It'll damage Mayweather's legacy for sure but the sport itself will be fine if it delivers good fights that people want to see.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas
            So if Conor wins somehow he just magically won? Floyd can't lose according to some of you guys. But if he does what else could that mean except they found a hole in Floyd's game &/or had a strategy that beat him? You guys make it sound like Floyd CAN'T possibly ever lose or something nutty like that. That makes me speechless that you guys can't envision how Floyd could lose.
            If Conor wins then my whole outlook on Boxing will completely change.

            I cannot envision a guy with no boxing experience beating Floyd Mayweather 2 years removed from being P4P #1.

            I can easily see Floyd losing. He argubaly lost to Castillo and Maidana (two very good world champion boxers) but can I see Floyd losing to a a guy with no experience i Boxing? No. And I can't see any world class boxer losing for that matter and I'm pretty sure that's a universal view. That will all change if Floyd loses though because there's evidence of that not being the case hence the absolute disaster for the legitimacy of this sport if that happens.
            Last edited by IronDanHamza; 08-13-2017, 04:45 PM.

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              #66
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              It's relevant because I could never imagine someone who has competed as an amateur or a professional boxer saying that sparring equates to boxing experience and definitely hitting bags and pads equating to Boxing experience.

              Again, the last sentence is just an extremely naive thing to say.
              So wtf do I have tuba skills from sparring amateurs & pros, days spent on gym bags & working with a trainer?

              Again I'm not saying its 1 to 1 experience, that would be naive, but for sure when you've spent days upon days of time doing boxing things its boxing experience to some degree. But yea there's levels to it I don't disagree with that angle if thats even your angle.

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                #67
                this is not boxing, period.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  So wtf do I have tuba skills from sparring amateurs & pros, days spent on gym bags & working with a trainer?

                  Again I'm not saying its 1 to 1 experience, that would be naive, but for sure when you've spent days upon days of time doing boxing things its boxing experience to some degree. But yea there's levels to it I don't disagree with that angle if thats even your angle.
                  You have learned the basics of boxing and have an insight into boxing training but you don't have an experience as a boxer.

                  You have to fight to have experience as a boxer. That's just common sense.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    If Conor wins then my whole outlook on Boxing will completely change.
                    LOL, although thats probably a good thing if you can't envision one specific guy in a 2 man contest losing. Boxing isn't THAT f#cking intricate.

                    I cannot envision a guy with no boxing experience beating Floyd Mayweather 2 years removed from being P4P #1.
                    And again I'd say you got a antiquated & narrow definition on what experience is.

                    I can easily see Floyd losing. He argubaly lost to Castillo and Maidana (two very good world champion boxers) but can I see Floyd losing to a a guy with no experience i Boxing? No. And I can't see any world class boxer losing for that matter and I'm pretty sure that's a universal view. That will all change if Floyd loses though becuase there's evidence of that not being the case hence the absolute disaster for the legitimacy of this sport if that happens.
                    Oh lol here we go again with disasters & drama & ******* dying & volcanos erupting & Jesus coming back to take us home cuz a guy lost a fight. Holy f#ck man. He's 40 years old in a sport where most great fighters were shot at 35.

                    Couldn't Floyd just lose cuz he's taking this challenge as lightly or think Conor is as garbage as you are & come in out of fighting shape & get outworked?

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      You have learned the basics of boxing and have an insight into boxing training but you don't have an experience as a boxer.

                      You have to fight to have experience as a boxer. That's just common sense.
                      So again sparring is just nothing no matter if its going 100% & seeing who's better?

                      What exactly is the difference between legit competitive sparring & a pro or amateur fight outside of the decision & pageantry involved in the pro & amateur traditions?

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