Why it's NOT bad for boxing if McGregor wins

[IronDanHamza]

LOL, although thats probably a good thing if you can't envision one specific guy in a 2 man contest losing. Boxing isn't THAT f#cking intricate.



And again I'd say you got a antiquated & narrow definition on what experience is.



Oh lol here we go again with disasters & drama & ******* dying & volcanos erupting & Jesus coming back to take us home cuz a guy lost a fight. Holy f#ck man. He's 40 years old in a sport where most great fighters were shot at 35.

Couldn't Floyd just lose cuz he's taking this challenge as lightly or think Conor is as garbage as you are & come in out of fighting shape & get outworked?

Clearly you just can't grasp how vital and important actual experience is when it comes to this sport (not sparring and hitting a punching bag) which is why I could only assume you hadn't competed yourself because that's the only way you could have that view.

Boxing IS that intricate. That's what you don't get.

Lomachenko had 300 amateur fights, multiple olympic gold medals, he jumped in the deep end in Boxing and fought an aging, but world class veteran and he lost because his lack of experience.

Pete Rademacher had 80 Amateur fights and an Olmypic gold medal and he jumped in the deep end and fought Floyd Patterson and got knocked out in the 6th Round.

These are guys with actual real boxing experience and it's still not enough to jump in the deep end because Boxing IS that intricate.

Let alone a guy with no fights AT ALL just jumping in and beating Mayweather. The thought of that boggles my mind.

I guess you don't see Boxing as I see it or hold it in the same regard as me. Which is fine.

[IronDanHamza]

So again sparring is just nothing no matter if its going 100% & seeing who's better?

What exactly is the difference between legit competitive sparring & a pro or amateur fight outside of the decision & pageantry involved in the pro & amateur traditions?

The difference is there is nothing on the line in sparring.

Sparring is about learning most of the time not hurting your opponent.

Competing you have to deal with the pressure, you are fighting under the lights, your opponent is trying to do serious damage to you to get the victory, you need to pace yourself differently, you need to do almost everything different than in a spar.

You could a 1000 rounds and it won't be as valuable as 1 actual fight.

I honestly can't believe you are asking me what the difference between a spar and a fight is.

There are not one and the same believe it or not.

[Eff Pandas]

You could a 1000 rounds and it won't be as valuable as 1 actual fight.

So lights = 1000<1. LOL okay.

I honestly can't believe you are asking me what the difference between a spar and a fight is.

There are not one and the same believe it or not.

I never said it was the same. Where did I even say that? You are extremely dense or willfully ignorant for a guy I usually think of as intelligent about boxing sh^t. I was merely requesting your take on the difference since you think of them as so different.

You are the one claiming under the lights is some spiritual event & that sparring at 100% competitively is nothing in comparison. I'm the one saying for sure under the lights is a much higher level of experience, but clearly sparring competitively & not just to learn means something towards boxing experience.

I can't even fathom how I'm wrong that sparring is somehow equal to not sparring on the boxing experience meter. Thats just ******. Again not saying sparring 10 rounds is equal to 10 rounds of amateur competition, but it registers as experience 100%.

[Eff Pandas]

Boxing IS that intricate. That's what you don't get.

If boxing was THAT intricate there would be no such thing as a punchers chance. The better, more experienced guy doesn't always win. Upsets happen in boxing all the time. If they didn't then yea you'd be right.

[IronDanHamza]

If boxing was THAT intricate there would be no such thing as a punchers chance. The better, more experienced guy doesn't always win. Upsets happen in boxing all the time. If they didn't then yea you'd be right.

Yes of course when professionals fight each other.

Not zero experience vs world class professional.

[IronDanHamza]

So lights = 1000<1. LOL okay.



I never said it was the same. Where did I even say that? You are extremely dense or willfully ignorant for a guy I usually think of as intelligent about boxing sh^t. I was merely requesting your take on the difference since you think of them as so different.

You are the one claiming under the lights is some spiritual event & that sparring at 100% competitively is nothing in comparison. I'm the one saying for sure under the lights is a much higher level of experience, but clearly sparring competitively & not just to learn means something towards boxing experience.

I can't even fathom how I'm wrong that sparring is somehow equal to not sparring on the boxing experience meter. Thats just ******. Again not saying sparring 10 rounds is equal to 10 rounds of amateur competition, but it registers as experience 100%.

Again, just extremely naive view.

I can'r really say anything else on the matter.

If you think sparring equates to actual boxing experience then so be it.

And also did you not ask me what the difference between sparring and fighting was? In my mind that's saying that sparring and fighting is the same thing.

[Eff Pandas]

Yes of course when professionals fight each other.

Not zero experience vs world class professional.

Okay, who says Floyd is still a world class professional? Are you saying its impossible that he's not the same guy he was 2yrs ago? He's the same or better at 40 & with 2 years out of the ring?

How long does it take before being old & out of the ring = a guy in his prime like Conor from another similar, but different combat sport could beat Floyd? When he's 45? 50? 55? 60? 75? 100? Surely theres a breaking point when a 80 year old Floyd isn't beating a 28 year old in his prime fighter from another genre of combat sports right? Or is this like a video game & once you got the experience you never lose anything via age or inactivity?

[Eff Pandas]

Again, just extremely naive view.

I can'r really say anything else on the matter.

If you think sparring equates to actual boxing experience then so be it.

Well again I say its naive to think sparring & not sparring is the same level of boxing experience. I never said sparring & pro or amateur experience is 1 to 1 comparable & actually went out of my way to say that I don't believe that to be true, but I certainly can't believe that if you take two guys, one who's sparred a 1,000 rounds & one who hasn't put on gloves before = the same level of boxing experience. Clearly sparring means something towards experience. I'd even say pro experience is superior to amateur experience as amateur experience is superior to sparring or even toughman fights or other sh^t like that.

There's levels man, but it is experience. I mean if you build birdhouses as a hobby or if you work at a birdhouse factory & can put it on your resume you got birdhouse building experience either way.

And also did you not ask me what the difference between sparring and fighting was? In my mind that's saying that sparring and fighting is the same thing.

I was asking the difference in your opinion cuz if two guys are trying to KO each other in sparring or in a pro fight with purses I don't really see the difference outside of the crowd & officials. You took it to mean standard sparring. That wasn't my question.

[IronDanHamza]

Well again I say its naive to think sparring & not sparring is the same level of boxing experience. I never said sparring & pro or amateur experience is 1 to 1 comparable & actually went out of my way to say that I don't believe that to be true, but I certainly can't believe that if you take two guys, one who's sparred a 1,000 rounds & one who hasn't put on gloves before = the same level of boxing experience. Clearly sparring means something towards experience. I'd even say pro experience is superior to amateur experience as amateur experience is superior to sparring or even toughman fights or other sh^t like that.

There's levels man, but it is experience. I mean if you build birdhouses as a hobby or if you work at a birdhouse factory & can put it on your resume you got birdhouse building experience either way.



I was asking the difference in your opinion cuz if two guys are trying to KO each other in sparring or in a pro fight with purses I don't really see the difference outside of the crowd & officials. You took it to mean standard sparring. That wasn't my question.

As I said previously you have learned the basics and have an insight on boxing training but you do not have boxing experience.

So now you are kind of saying it is the same? I don't really follow.

NO version of sparring is the eqivilent to an actual fight.

[IronDanHamza]

Okay, who says Floyd is still a world class professional? Are you saying its impossible that he's not the same guy he was 2yrs ago? He's the same or better at 40 & with 2 years out of the ring?

How long does it take before being old & out of the ring = a guy in his prime like Conor from another similar, but different combat sport could beat Floyd? When he's 45? 50? 55? 60? 75? 100? Surely theres a breaking point when a 80 year old Floyd isn't beating a 28 year old in his prime fighter from another genre of combat sports right? Or is this like a video game & once you got the experience you never lose anything via age or inactivity?

I would consider Floyd 2 years removed from being P4P #1 in boxing still a world class professional yes. How good is another story.

At what point he doesn't is hard to tell but the longer the less chance obviously.