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  • j.razor
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    #51
    Originally posted by satiev1
    Ever since canelo lost to mayweather the only real tough challenger he faced in his prime was lara which I though he lost. He had no intention of unifying his division like a true champ would do facing andrade and charlo. GBP wanted no part of a 154 lb unification with the other champs and Instead he faced an old cotto, kirkland, anuglo, and khan. GGG's wins against lemieux and jacobs surpasses any win canelo has.

    Lemeieux and jacobs > trout lara and cotto.
    If you wanna ride on a "favorite" go and ride Lomachenko for a lil bit before he steps up in weight.....lil g should of fought Ward when he had the chance and right now he should be fighting da Charlo's, Demetrius Andrade, Lara, ect. lil g even LOST to Jacobs! And Lemieux is wack!

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    • AllBoxingAD
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      #52
      Originally posted by TonyGe
      I don't care if Lemieux last win was his next door neighbour. Cotto would be badly damaged.
      Soooo... You've got nothing but your fantasy matchups. Got it.

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      • HeadShots
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        #53
        Originally posted by icha
        I could also say ggg lost to jacobs, but the fact is ggg and canelo won those fights and your scorecard and mine are irrelevant... close wins also count... deal with it...
        not even close to those fights.


        trout outthrew and outlanded Canelo.


        Lara outlanded canelo.


        old, small Cotto outlanded Canelo.



        there are facts that can support an argument that they won the fight.



        there's literally no metric you can go by to say Jacobs won. so not in the same ballpark.
        Last edited by HeadShots; 04-23-2017, 12:29 PM.

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        • icha
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          #54
          Originally posted by HeadShots
          not even close to those fights.


          trout outthrew and outlanded Canelo.


          Lara outlanded canelo.


          old, small Cotto outlanded Canelo.



          there are facts that can support an argument that they won the fight.



          there's literally no metric you can go by to say Jacobs won. so not in the same ballpark.
          We have a compubox judge, lol..
          How did cotto outlanded canelo anyway?

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          • HeadShots
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            #55
            Originally posted by icha
            We have a compubox judge, lol..
            How did cotto outlanded canelo anyway?
            i watched all those fights.

            especially the trout fight...... canelo was giving away ring generalship too by backpedalling and having his back on the ropes through most of the fight.


            so he's giving away ring generalship and was out thrown and was outlanded.


            these are simply facts.



            somebody can't take that.

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            • icha
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              #56
              Originally posted by HeadShots
              i watched all those fights.

              especially the trout fight...... canelo was giving away ring generalship too by backpedalling and having his back on the ropes through most of the fight.


              so he's giving away ring generalship and was out thrown and was outlanded.


              these are simply facts.



              somebody can't take that.
              Thats only your opinion, trouts own opinion was different by the way... and thats a fact... canelo coasted the later part of the fight due to open scoring and still trout had him winning the fight... it was a close fight for a green canelo no doubt, but again close wins count, so deal with it...

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              • HeadShots
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                #57
                Originally posted by icha
                Thats only your opinion, trouts own opinion was different by the way... and thats a fact... canelo coasted the later part of the fight due to open scoring and still trout had him winning the fight... it was a close fight for a green canelo no doubt, but again close wins count, so deal with it...


                the facts are

                trout had superior ring generalship, activity and actual punches landed.


                those are facts. not opinions.


                so a legit case can be made that he won. not the same ball park as ggg/jacobs

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by HeadShots
                  the facts are

                  trout had superior ring generalship, activity and actual punches landed.


                  those are facts. not opinions.


                  so a legit case can be made that he won. not the same ball park as ggg/jacobs
                  Stop this none sense this is trout in the ring post fight interview saying canelo beat him. So trout disagrees with you.

                  https://********/nrGs5jbgc3w

                  Trout was wobbled multiple times and dropped. Open scoring so he knew he was down and QUIT the final 1/3 of the fight. Knew he needed to ko but didn't want to risk getting knocked out so he gave up happy just to go 12. Canelo knowing he won the fight and took his foot off the gas otherwise probably drops him again or knocks him out. No robbery dumb azz with open scoring and 1 guy getting knocked down and quiting.
                  Last edited by bigdunny1; 04-23-2017, 01:12 PM.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by The Time
                    Good objective, neutral post that I definitely agree with. Good stuff man.
                    Thanks.

                    Originally posted by koolkc107
                    No one is saying those are not good wins.

                    But, Lemieux is not a great or elite fighter. He is a good fighter with elite level power. Power than can be neutralized by decent boxing skill the sub-elite level of a fighter like Alcine or Antonio Rubio. The best opponents Canelo has faced would never lose to guys that Lemieux has; they'd dominate those guys.

                    Those wins by Lil g just are not the same level as beating a prime Lara or even a diminished Cotto. And an undefeated Austin Trout is also demonstrably better than anyone on Lil g's resume not named Murray or Jacobs.

                    Right now, Murray is the only undisputed win that Lil g has over a near elite guy. The same Murray that reportedly just squeaked by journeyman Rosado.

                    So no, the resumes are not all that close.

                    And even if they WERE close, we would still be comparing a fighter nearing the end of his career to one just entering his prime.

                    You can't talk about quality of resumes without mentioning that Lil g hadn't come close to challenging himself with a legit threat until he was over A DECADE into his pro career.

                    That alone renders the conversation moot.
                    I agree that Lemieux is one dimensional, but it is a bit disingenuous to pick out his two worst performances and then paint his entire career in that light.

                    I like that you emphasize Jacobs as a disputed win, but don't do the same for Canelo's wins over Lara and Trout. In honesty, I thought GGG and Canelo deserved all of those wins. It does show your bias though. As does your need to pick at GGG's opponents without subjecting Canelo's to the same scrutiny.

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                    • HeadShots
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by bigdunny1
                      Stop this none sense this is trout in the ring post fight interview saying canelo beat him. So trout disagrees with you.

                      https://********/nrGs5jbgc3w

                      Trout was wobbled multiple times and dropped. Open scoring so he knew he was down and QUIT the final 1/3 of the fight. Knew he needed to ko but didn't want to risk getting knocked out so he gave up happy just to go 12. Canelo knowing he won the fight and took his foot off the gas otherwise probably drops him again or knocks him out. No robbery dumb azz with open scoring and 1 guy getting knocked down and quiting.



                      that is an opinion. even if it's his own. some people r self critical and emotional.


                      the facts are he outworked and outlanded canelo.



                      it's like you people can't distinguish facts from opinion. the ******ation is astounding here.

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