GGGS Resume is better than Canelos

[Vegemil]

Nowhere in this post is there even one rational or factual statement. Everyone who took the time to read this post is now dumber for having done so.

With a name like that it's hilarious how you gloss everything over. There's literally NOTHING in that post that's inaccurate at all. It's a ****** way to compare resumes but the fact that you're saying there are no facts when they're all facts makes you look ******.

[Scary]

They also know the people he lost to. Margarito, Mayweather, Pacquiao (a much smaller fighter) Trout, Alvarez. I always thought Cotto was overrated.

Margarito win is tainted. He came back and beat him fair and square. Losing to Pacquiao in his prime os something you discredit, as something he should have won? Jeezz.... Trout fight was close. Cotto wasn't overrated, you are just simply wrong. One of the best of this era.

[TonyGe]

Margarito win is tainted. He came back and beat him fair and square. Losing to Pacquiao in his prime os something you discredit, as something he should have won? Jeezz.... Trout fight was close. Cotto wasn't overrated, you are just simply wrong. One of the best of this era.

The Margarito fight I'll admit was tainted. I never cared for Cotto as an elite fighter. If your happy with him fine.

[AllBoxingAD]

If Lemieux ever got in a fight with Cotto he would end Cotto's career. I would be seriously concerned that Cotto would end up hospitalized. Lemieux is much too big for him and hits too hard. There is no way Cotto would get in a ring with Lemieux.

Sooo... Who has Lemieux defeated?

[Johnny2x2x]

Jacobs is easily the best win for GGG although it could have gone the other way.

Problem for GGG is he has the resume of a 25 year old up and comer, but he's 35. Canelo is 26 and has a much better resume. Lara, Trout, and Cotto are better wins than anyone GGG has fought. Jacobs is a good win, Lemieux a decent win. Brook = A Mere Con. After that there are about a half dozen names on Canelo's resume better than GGG has. Mosley over the hill > almost all of GGGs opponents. Cintron and Hatton are even better than GGG's first 30 fights.

One fighter is 26 and has 50 fights including 20+ real title fights. The other is 35 and counts Daniel Geale as his 3rd best win...

No idea what's the story with GGG getting so old without really fighting anyone. I know there were a ton of good middleweights for him to fight when he was in his 20s. Not sure what he was doing. GGG passes the eye test IMO, he's a skilled boxer with good power. It's a real shame he waited until he was in his mid 30s to start testing himself. Unless he fights until he's 45 he's never going to have the resume of an all timer.

[HeadShots]

OP is correct.


the point is Trout, Cotto and Lara all arguably beat Canelo.



trout does have a win over old cotto. but that is a smaller and much older cotto.

[TonyGe]

Sooo... Who has Lemieux defeated?

I don't care if Lemieux last win was his next door neighbour. Cotto would be badly damaged.

[icha]

OP is correct.


the point is Trout, Cotto and Lara all arguably beat Canelo.



trout does have a win over old cotto. but that is a smaller and much older cotto.

I could also say ggg lost to jacobs, but the fact is ggg and canelo won those fights and your scorecard and mine are irrelevant... close wins also count... deal with it...

[koolkc107]

I think the quality of the resumes are not as far apart as some people think. It is fair to challenge that.

I think Jacobs and Lemiuex are better wins than a lot of GGG detractors want to admit.

Canelo's standout wins are Lara, Cotto, and Trout. They all present more difficult styles than Lemieux, but I think Jacobs is more dangerous than any of them at middleweight. I'm not trying to pump him up, I'm not a GGG fanboy. I just legit think Jacobs is a real guy. Lemieux is one dimensional, but fast and powerful. He can't be handled any better than GGG did. You can't really contest these points.

Against their other opponents, there isn't much difference in quality, and GGG generally looked more impressive against the non elite guys.

I give Canelo the nod when it comes to opposition, but it isn't by a wide margin anymore.

No one is saying those are not good wins.

But, Lemieux is not a great or elite fighter. He is a good fighter with elite level power. Power than can be neutralized by decent boxing skill the sub-elite level of a fighter like Alcine or Antonio Rubio. The best opponents Canelo has faced would never lose to guys that Lemieux has; they'd dominate those guys.

Those wins by Lil g just are not the same level as beating a prime Lara or even a diminished Cotto. And an undefeated Austin Trout is also demonstrably better than anyone on Lil g's resume not named Murray or Jacobs.

Right now, Murray is the only undisputed win that Lil g has over a near elite guy. The same Murray that reportedly just squeaked by journeyman Rosado.

So no, the resumes are not all that close.

And even if they WERE close, we would still be comparing a fighter nearing the end of his career to one just entering his prime.

You can't talk about quality of resumes without mentioning that Lil g hadn't come close to challenging himself with a legit threat until he was over A DECADE into his pro career.

That alone renders the conversation moot.

[icha]

I don't care if Lemieux last win was his next door neighbour. Cotto would be badly damaged.

P4p the cotto that fought canelo is head and shoulders over the lemule that fought ggg... canelos resume has jmws and gggs has mw, see how they rank p4p and jacobs or lemule never cracked the top 20 unlike lara, trout, cotto...